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I have an idea for a game: It's the usual "a princess is kidnapped by a dragon and a brave knight is on a quest to rescue her" story. But you (the player) plays as the princess, who is somehow helping the knight on his quest.

The issue is that since the player is playing as a trapped character, I want to make the player feel trapped, but I don't know how to do that.

My original idea is that the princess telepathically communicates with the knight and tells him what to do. But this doesn't work, the gameplay is identical to the player playing as the knight. How can I make the gameplay feel like the player is playing as the princess (and thus feel trapped) instead of the knight?

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[–] libra00@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

What is the core gameplay loop you envision here? Cause I can come up with a few ideas, but if you have specific ideas they probably won't apply. Also there's a particular balance to be struck: if you hamstring the player too much it won't feel like a game, and if you give them too much leeway they won't feel trapped. Here are a few ideas off the top of my head:

Direct but limited intervention: the princess is a sorceress who is trapped by magic in the tower which means she can't leave and doesn't have access to her full magical powers (you could include a progression mechanic where the more bosses the knight defeats, or the more magical crystals he shatters, or whatever, the more you can help him.) But she's still scrying on him, watching his progress, throwing the occasional beneficial spell or nuking crowds of dangerous enemies before he gets overwhelmed, etc. The reduced interactivity will make the player feel trapped (and slowly less so as the game progresses), and maybe the scrying window starts out smallish so you can't see the whole field at once and it slowly grows as her power increases.

Distraction/misdirection: The knight has made it to the tower/castle and has to fight his way through the guards, but instead of attacking the guards directly you're trying to cause a ruckus to distract the guards so he doesn't have to fight them all at once. This could even be a stealth game where you're knocking things over and banging pots and pans or whatever to distract the guards as he sneaks by them.

Puzzle game: The castle/tower itself is magical and has floor tiles/walls that can be moved around, and the princess is manipulating the castle around the knight to give him the best path through obstacles and to limit the number of guards that can get to him in any given room.

It really depends on what kind of game you want to make here.

[–] jannaultheal@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Thank you for the detailed response. The gameplay loop I have in mind is a puzzle game where the thing you're trying to do is usually easy, but you're limited in some way that makes it hard. An example I gave in another comment is : write a computer program that adds two numbers, but you're not allowed to use the + symbol.

I really like your idea of "beneficial spell". I think maybe the knight and enemies are autonomous, and the princess can only do a single action to make the knight succeed.

I remember playing a game like this. It's based on Conway's game of life. The goal is to flip a single cell to make all the cells die after a certain number of turns.

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, you could maybe combine the sliding-tile-puzzle thing with the beneficial spell so you're not just sitting there watching everything play out with nothing to do (though autobattlers are apparently a thing so maybe that'd be fine?)

Also, if you happen to find that game based on Game of Life I'd like to give that a shot, sounds interesting.