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[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They had a whole week before they needed to plant it. That's plenty of time to pop out a quick print that they wouldn't even have to demonstrate could even be fired.

What right place? They could just bring it into the precinct in their bag. Somehow despite doing a quick search of HIS backpack on site of his arrest, the gun wasn't discovered until they got it back to the precinct. Despite supposedly being in the front pocket.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

"Right place" as in have institutional connections. They need a guy who can do a complex, multi-part print in a week. If you've never done a complex, multi-part prints before, then no, you're not likely to be successful unless you have knowledge and a tuned printer profile already.

They could just bring it into the precinct in their bag

For this to be the way they planted a freshly printed gun, it had to get to Altoona, PA in the time it took to get from McDonalds to the precinct. It couldn't be some plan by the NYPD or FBI since there's not enough time to get the gun there. Unless you're saying the employee who called it in from the McDonalds was in on it. Generally, increasing the number of people in a conspiracy makes for a fragile conspiracy.

Nor do I think it's too likely they could have pulled a 3D printed gun that was already in police custody. NYPD probably does have some in their evidence lockers, but not a 43k population town like Altoona.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Who are these people who own a filament based 3d printer who aren't doing multi part prints?

Like no part of how they handled this search reads as genuine. They didn't find the gun when they searched the bag on site. No buddy can footage for from the cop transporting it. Only after they're back at the precinct do they find the gun in the outer most pocket. AND also he's carrying around an entire manifesto that's written well below his level of education? Plus a bunch of cash - are we supposed to believe he was running away or trying to get caught here?

Police departments regularly get these 3d printed things turned in during gun turn in drives, as opportunists like to print up a bunch of new ones to claim the bounties just to stick it to the man.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Have you done prints of this complexity before? It's not just a few parts at once. It tends to fill the whole bed with small parts. Bad adhesion anywhere can be a problem.

I agree the whole search was hinky. There's a decent chance the backpack will be ruled inadmissible due to chain of evidence issues. If that's the case, the prosecution's case likely falls apart.

That requires nothing more than a couple of cops from a podunk town in rural PA fucking up the whole thing. The idea of a conspiracy to plant a gun is convoluted and unnecessary.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They don't need one that actually works to frame him...

They needed a prop they can stick in an evidence baggy, and can claim it broke after the initial couple shots, if need be.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The defense has access to that evidence and can analyze it. When taken apart, a weapon that was printed in a non-functional state will be different from one that broke during use. Being non-functional might have missing parts or bad fitment or such. A broken 3D printed firearm would have breaks/delamination that tend to be along layer lines. The defense can call an expert to testify and tear the whole case apart.

Only dumb cops would try that. Like the cops in a small rural PA town. We already know they're not that smart because they've likely fucked up the chain of evidence. Except, that alone is enough to sink the case, and we don't need to assume anything about how the gun got there.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

You're right! This entire case looks like it was put together by dumb cops.