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"obvious signs"
Some girls need to learn to talk. Why is it that some people go back to kindergarten level communication skills when it comes to sexual and romantic relationships?
Explicitly asking comes with the possibility of being explicitly rejected, and some women never learned to deal with romantic rejection, thus making them afraid of even the possibility of it. For most of them, this is subconcious.
Hmm yes, that’s definitely a women only problem that doesn’t also affect me because I’m a man.
"BUT WHAT ABOUT MEN?!?!?"
Yes, by not explicitly stating that some men also have this problem, I implicitly meant that this was a women-only issue. You're one of the few who managed to see through my subtle deception, bravo.
Yeah no worries, I was just being silly by intentionally reading your comment in an overly literal way. I don’t think anyone actually believed you were implying it was a women-only issue.
This is the internet, someone absolutely would do exactly that.
I actually took the bait lol, all good.
It kinda is. Obviously it doesn't start that way, rejection is naturally unpleasant for everyone, but culturally, men are expected to initiate courtship. Unless you're an absolutely gorgeous man, your romantic experience will almost certainly involve at least a few rejections.
The average adult man generally has enough experience with rejection to be somewhat desensitized, while the average adult woman has quite possibly never actually asked anyone out, much less been rejected.
That's unfortunate
I guess it's the lack of experience. You don't usually go around and just tell people you like them. Nobody really teaches you.
Perhaps it's a culture difference. That's exactly what I do
Signs could include things like telling you they'd date you imo. You can't know if they're just being nice.
Unless a notary signs off on the written documentation of the flirtation incident and I am provided with an romantic intention notice at the time of flirting, I'm going to assume she wants noting to do with me.
This is much easier (and infinitely more socially acceptable) than misreading the situation and getting labeled a creep etc.
Exactly.
When is the next assembly of the legislative of social rules? I want to propose some new rules.
You can just ask tho
But at least then you can reply "you won't, prove it!" If the "signs" are "I glanced at you for 5 whole seconds on Friday," or "I said nice haircut last month" then it's a lot harder to guess lol.
Yeah. It's called being a teenager and young adult.
With no friends or parents perhaps. Someone can tell you at least
"Wanna go out?"
"You must be a desperate slut if you are asking a guy out. Hey guys! Check out this desperate whore lol"
Or
"Do I look like a woman to you? Like some pussy ass beta? Bitch I'm an alpha, a hunter. Get the fuck out of here before I put you in your place for disrespecting me"
Just saying we should tackle the root of the problems, the gender roles, instead of the symptoms.
Hello, Mr. Strawman? We've got your cousin here, we need you to come pick them up.
How will 'the root of the problem' (which we disagree on) be solved? Because the 'root of the problem', in your assertion, is actually a symptom.
Of what, you might ask? That's right - bad communication. It doesn't matter what you're trying to change - if it involves people it involves communication. Ergo: many women need to learn how to communicate.
So do many men, just so we're being clear.
There may be some people that actually think and/or say that. But seriously, would you want to date a person that shouts ridiculous stuff like that?
I've not met a lot of people who think like that. But the few that I did I do not consider date-able. Or even friends-with-benefits-able.
Wut.
Are you speaking from anecdotal experience or something?..