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This is a very low-information announcement here but if this is taken to the extreme, it means that DuckDuckGo, Qwant, and many other so-called "alternative" search engines are going to either have to look for a new provider of results, or die.

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[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Shiiit, I really don't want to go back to Google and all their sponsored/AI/tracking bullshit. Any other privacy-focused search engines out there that don't rely on this?

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Wiz@midwest.social 2 points 15 hours ago

That anonymizes Google results. It's Google, all the way down.

[–] mooncake@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago

American company though. Not supporting that

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah I'm far too used to getting my search for free to pay for it. I'll fuckin' use chatgpt before I pay a subscription fee for that shit, even if it is a substantially better option.

[–] MonkeyBrawler@lemm.ee 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Answers still Kagi. You get use of the basic tiers for all the big ai services.

You ever wanted to blacklist Quora from search results? You can do that too.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 hours ago

Not unless you have some way to get me a free lifetime membership, cause I've already made it pretty clear I'm not paying for it, and it wouldn't even let me use it without making an account when I checked it out.

[–] gradual@lemmings.world 8 points 1 day ago

Look at you having standards.

[–] mooncake@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's what I said before I used it, you can try it free for 30 days

[–] gradual@lemmings.world -2 points 17 hours ago

This is why tech communities suck.

Too many shills and useful idiots trying to viral market bullshit.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I looked at it briefly, the only free option I saw was 100 free searches, which will not last your average user anywhere near 30 days. Shit that might not last me 3 days depending on what I'm doing.

[–] baguettefish@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I think you overestimate the average user

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 hours ago

3 searches a day? Most people probably clear that just satisfying idle curiosity while sitting on the damned toilet.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Shiiit, I really don't want to go back to Google and all their sponsored/AI/tracking bullshit.

I can tell you with confidence that I simply just won't.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

What's the alternative? I guess you can use chatgpt or whatever as a sort of search engine? shrug

[–] kazerniel@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

people who use LLMs as search engine make me go 😨

my colleagues are doing it too, and I just want to yell at them that LLMs have no idea about reality, they will confidently tell you to eat glue

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

I admit I haven't tried it myself, but I've heard it's a thing, apparently? shrug But I've noticed in my other uses that they're a lot better about citing sources for their claims now, so I guess you could just go 'Hey what's the capital of Vermont?', ignore its answer, then click on the source link below it, and voila: search engine?

My point was more: is this just the way things are going to go, we're going to get funneled into using AI for everything whether we want to or not?

[–] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

If you tell the o3 reasoning model to just search the web and give you the top results instead of answering your query it can actually be really useful for obscure queries. I was able to find specific spec sheets for my model of monitor when a google search would only produce the specs for basically any other model the manufacturer made. Even with the model number in quotes

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

At the end of the day, it’s still an agent searching the web like a person, and its results are only good if search is decent.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

searx, because it queries multiple engines that are accessible, and perhaps google frontends (whoogle, libre y, and that new mullvad thing).

but for the past years I was exclusively using duckduckgo and it would be very said if it would go away :( I started recommending it to others too

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 hours ago

Yeah I've been using duckduckgo for a few years now and loving it, I really hope it doesn't go away. Still waiting to hear from those guys about how this affects them.

[–] toastmeister@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You think Microsoft gives you privacy?

They make billions on targeted ad revenue.

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

No, I use duckduckgo which is powered by Bing's API. Hence why I said other privacy-focused search engine.

[–] philpo@feddit.org 2 points 1 day ago

Mullvad Leta is at least google minus the tracking.

[–] skynet@feddit.cl -5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Brave Search has its own index

[–] Libra@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 day ago

Is that something built into the browser? i dropped Brave when I heard Google was forcing the adblock-gimping shit in Manifest V3 into Chomium. Also I was never entirely keen on their crypto-hawking bullshit.