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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Is that even happening? Considered US police and various letter agencies are basically at the level of open warfare against the population i would imagine population of such a liberty loving country would fight back...

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Do you expect individuals to go up to their local government and let loose? What do you think the result of that would be?

That's not how resistance movements work and never has been.

You must build first. Read history.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm calling up Americans and their relation to government. They are not the courageous liberty loving individuals they claim they are, there is plenty of gun violence in USA but very little if any is against the government and for their liberties despite it becing cited as the main reason of what is otherwise just a gun fetishism.

Point is: liberalism sucks and is unable to organise anyone for anything.

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well Americans aren't a monolith and as I said, individuals taking action against a government achieves nothing. Do you believe America has achieved a mass leftist movement capable of overthrowing the govt?

Unless you are in China, Cuba, Vietnam, or NK you really don't have a valid platform to criticize a people not overthrowing their government, have you partaken in the overthrow of your government/do you agree with your government?

Considering the OP is mocking a "leftist" liberal advocating the disarmament of the people. Do you think OP/most people agreeing with OP here are right wing liberals or ollectivist leftists? It seems to me you are advocating for liberal individualism or from a similar liberal view unless I'm drastically misunderstanding something.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

unless I’m drastically misunderstanding something.

Yes, you managed. Down with liberalism, down with America.

[–] Merva@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, Americans love to fantasise about their beloved 2nd amendment (regardless of political persuasion), but they have never ever used it for what they (falsely) claim it was intended for.

[–] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah that's not exactly true though. You ever heard of the Battle of Blair Mountain and the Cole Wars?