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We poisoned the whole planet so our eggs wouldn't stick to the pan 🙃 (youtu.be)

submitted 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

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It seems I shouldn't have posted this without context

TL;DW

yes the video is (at least partially) about Teflon, hence the cynical title
no, Teflon (or generally big Fluoropolymers) are not the problem. Ingesting them does nothing to you, because as long, chemically inert polymers they just pass through you from one end to the other
The problem are perfluoroalkyl acids: C8 (PFOA) and later substitutes such as C6/GenX, PFOS, PFHA, PFHxS which are chemicals used to start the Teflon polymerization. They are short-chained carbon-fluorine molecules that coincidentally mimic the structure of fatty acids, thus can accumulate in our bodies without a way for our bodies to break them down.
These chemicals leach into the environment from factories and accumulate in everything, to the point that the whole water cycle has been contaminated (yes that shit comes down everywhere with the rain)
There is conclusive proof that PFOA exposure is linked to a number of organ damage and cancers, particularly testicular cancer and kidney cancer, with likely links to lung and pancreatic cancer not reflected in the study due to survivor bias (they died before the study was concluded)

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[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 44 points 3 days ago (2 children)

you are so much smarter than everyone else

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Look it's not my fault people didn't get an opportunity to learn these skills because they were instead sold cheap, poisonous bullshit. Why would anyone learn if they didn't have to because there was an easier, cheaper way? It's not really the fault of individuals who don't know any better when society isn't going out it's way to teach them such skills. Hell, I didn't learn this until I was in my early thirties, because my parents had used teflon cookware all while I was growing up.

But, please, read it more as me thinking I'm better than everyone else rather than someone who got lucky enough to learn these skills eventually who is disappointed that we were sold poison as an 'easy' solution.

[–] prex@aussie.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did you read the article? Have you tested your ground & drinking water? If you do drink water then you are at risk. Pans are not the problem, firefighting foams & industrial leaks are.

[–] bilb@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

I only drink Brawndo, so I'm good.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

While I agree and have switched to cast iron and stainless steel, it’s not enough. No pfas were used in the manufacturing of my cookware, plus I expect to save money by never having to replace it. However the documentary starts showing how ubiquitous the chemicals are and for how many uses. While we all absolutely need better cookware choices, it’s only a drop in the bucket of so many consumer and industrial products.

Our part includes increased awareness and better choices for many things we come into contact with every day. However it’s critical to better regulate, to hold companies accountable for the damage they’ve done, bring them to justice for impact on public health and coverups, etc …. And that’s not just unlikely but really impossible

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Literally a minute of googling. Takes more to make up arguments why youd still use a pan that kills you and has built in planned obsolesce.

[–] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

hello friend, the pan doesnt kill you. there is no PFOA in the pan you buy and is used to cook the food you buy in a restaurant, which you've done hundreds and hundreds of times. its the production of the material on the pan that produces the anti-life compounds.

we don't get cancer from using nonstick pans, we get cancer from the PFOA in the groundwater that was made during the production process.

it takes literally a minute of googling, but thank you for the condescending message, couldn't have lived without it

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago

Ingesting teflon particles is bad for you and all the studies assume you are not scraping your teflon pan when in reality the teflon coating DOES flake off over use and following the procedures manufacturers tell you to, thus you are ingesting teflon flakes wether you like it or not.