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It seems I shouldn't have posted this without context

TL;DW

  • yes the video is (at least partially) about Teflon, hence the cynical title

  • no, Teflon (or generally big Fluoropolymers) are not the problem. Ingesting them does nothing to you, because as long, chemically inert polymers they just pass through you from one end to the other

  • The problem are perfluoroalkyl acids: C8 (PFOA) and later substitutes such as C6/GenX, PFOS, PFHA, PFHxS which are chemicals used to start the Teflon polymerization. They are short-chained carbon-fluorine molecules that coincidentally mimic the structure of fatty acids, thus can accumulate in our bodies without a way for our bodies to break them down.

  • These chemicals leach into the environment from factories and accumulate in everything, to the point that the whole water cycle has been contaminated (yes that shit comes down everywhere with the rain)

  • There is conclusive proof that PFOA exposure is linked to a number of organ damage and cancers, particularly testicular cancer and kidney cancer, with likely links to lung and pancreatic cancer not reflected in the study due to survivor bias (they died before the study was concluded)

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[โ€“] felixwhynot@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Recently replaced our teflon skillet with a ceramic one, Paris Hilton branded ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Ffs watch the video or read the post; Teflon is inert and completely safe, the issue is that to boost the speed of production they used PFAS which are very much dangerous at extremely low quantities, and yet it's everywhere including rainwater

Edit: the post didnt have a description when you wrote your comment, still please do watch the video

[โ€“] InEnduringGrowStrong@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sure, but if you're gonna replace a pan anyway, it'd still make sense to buy something else than Teflon because they're usually manufactured irresponsibly.

[โ€“] frezik@midwest.social 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's good to remind people that if they have a durable good that works fine, but its original manufacture was problematic, then it's generally better to keep it as long as it's doing its job. Even if the replacement is less problematic, it's impossible to make anything without some kind of impact. Keeping durable goods going is better.

Important for this thread is that cast iron, at least right now, is usually made in coal fired furnaces. It's an incredibly dirty industry. Now, if I need a pan I will tend to prefer cast iron and then use it forever. But don't throw stuff away that's perfectly functional.

Yea for sure.
I was mostly thinking about if you already need a replacement.

[โ€“] skeezix@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago