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A Boring Dystopia

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It seems I shouldn't have posted this without context

TL;DW

  • yes the video is (at least partially) about Teflon, hence the cynical title

  • no, Teflon (or generally big Fluoropolymers) are not the problem. Ingesting them does nothing to you, because as long, chemically inert polymers they just pass through you from one end to the other

  • The problem are perfluoroalkyl acids: C8 (PFOA) and later substitutes such as C6/GenX, PFOS, PFHA, PFHxS which are chemicals used to start the Teflon polymerization. They are short-chained carbon-fluorine molecules that coincidentally mimic the structure of fatty acids, thus can accumulate in our bodies without a way for our bodies to break them down.

  • These chemicals leach into the environment from factories and accumulate in everything, to the point that the whole water cycle has been contaminated (yes that shit comes down everywhere with the rain)

  • There is conclusive proof that PFOA exposure is linked to a number of organ damage and cancers, particularly testicular cancer and kidney cancer, with likely links to lung and pancreatic cancer not reflected in the study due to survivor bias (they died before the study was concluded)

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[โ€“] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Use stainless steel and cast iron and nothing else

[โ€“] Eximius@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

If you watch the video, it says there is no reason to switch, as teflon is not poisonous. The catalyst chemicals in manufacturing when released into rivers and other places is the biggest source. Then some shoddy packaging of fast foods.

PFASes are not only used for your pan.

[โ€“] endeavor@sopuli.xyz -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Teflon flakes are poisunous. And your teflon pan becomes useless in a few years, no matter what you do Thanks to teflon flaking off.

Put two and two together. And then add: They need to manufacture a new pan for you.

[โ€“] Eximius@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

Teflon is just as poisonous as any plastic above breakdown temperature (260C). I.e.: not really.

There is no eternal item in the human mortal coil.

They could start throwing out steel slag into rivers from the factories, you know. Which is the analogue.

[โ€“] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Carbon steel, glass, clay, ceramic, aluminum, and enameled cast iron are all great too!

Also stainless steel has the potential to leach chromium into foods. Research into this is still preliminary.