this post was submitted on 16 May 2025
193 points (98.5% liked)

World News

46597 readers
1595 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

In exchange for the resettling of Palestinians, the administration would potentially release to Libya billions of dollars of funds that the U.S. froze more than a decade ago, those three people said.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

As I recall, genocide was so important to centrists that they were willing to lose democracy for it.

Voted for harris. Will never stop hating myself for voting to enable genocide.

Centrists are just mad that their only policy is being enacted by their second favorite candidate.

[–] krakenfury@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It just wasn't an important issue when they looked at the polling data. The average American cares more about a lot of other stuff over ethnic cleansing in Palestine.

The incumbent administration looked weak in so many ways, that taking a stance against Israel would not have made a difference. Politically, it was just a wedge issue on the left. They needed to win the voters that moved from Biden to Trump, and the DNC was (and probably still is) entirely incapable of taking any big swings.

They lost because they actually expected to. Neither party actually gives a shit about democracy; power is just a mantle they pass back and forth. They are in a "you win this time" holding pattern waiting for the Republicans to fuck things up so badly that they can come back and win in '26 and '28.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

It just wasn’t an important issue when they looked at the polling data. The average American cares more about a lot of other stuff over ethnic cleansing in Palestine.

I doubt any claim regarding what polling data unavailable to the public says. The biden administration played arms dealer for a genocide (not the mealy-mouthed euphemism "ethnic cleansing"). Why would lying about a few polls be a bridge too far?

They considered genocide opponents too insignificant to listen to. Everyone who is blaming the anti-genocide left now needs to remember that they were so devoted to netanyahu that they didn't want to listen to people whose votes they were happy to discard in their zeal to wipe out Palestinians.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If genocide is all "centrists" care about then they would be fucking ecstatic over Trump's policy not mad.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

They ain't mad at trump.

They're mad at everyone who didn't like their genocide.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

... Wait, that they're getting now?

So they should be happy?

I mean, your argument is incoherent enough I think you need to consider an appointment with a mental health professional.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 0 points 6 hours ago

… Wait, that they’re getting now?

What they're getting now is a continuation of the same policy centrists spent all of 2024 defending.

So they should be happy?

The only reason centrists aren't happy is because their second favorite candidate is carrying out their only policy instead of their favorite candidate. And they're not directing the anger at trump. As with the entire year they spent defending their genocide, they're directing their anger at their left and only their left.

I mean, your argument is incoherent enough I think you need to consider an appointment with a mental health professional.

Gaslighting people who don't agree with you is what centrist genocide apologists do when they know the only policy they actually stand up for is monstrous. Concession accepted.