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[โ€“] Obelix@feddit.org 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

I did a quick tour through YouTube and, well, I think that this is a case of "both sides". The protestors are really agressive and violent, too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwh0-d4-b0A

I really do not understand what they want to gain by staging a protest like this. They are really not getting their message out to anyone. No bystander will go there and talk to them and inform themselves about their causes (which kind of is the point of a demonstration) when there is a big aggressive mob around. I'm going to lots of demonstrations and know that the police and esp. our Bereitschaftspolizei are too aggressive and sometimes pointlessly violent. But if I saw what was happening there, I would have left immediately. Nothing is gained by such pointless fighting and this only hurts the cause. You do not win any sympathies here by protesting so violently.

[โ€“] ftbd@feddit.org 3 points 6 hours ago

There is no "both sides" here when the playing field is so uneven. As a protestor, just showing up in a simple motorcycle helmet would be a crime - nevermind the full body armor the cops are wearing.

[โ€“] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 6 hours ago

Where do you see protestors initiating violence?

Because when the police starts storming in, you either can try to fight back or get run over and beaten up.

As i explained police seeks to rscalate violence to discredit protests. Also leaving can be difficult when you are surrounded by police and leaving by yourself makes you easy prey for police. This is why at every demo there is a reminder to arrive and leave in groups.