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We poisoned the whole planet so our eggs wouldn't stick to the pan 🙃 (youtu.be)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) by meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/aboringdystopia@lemmy.world

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It seems I shouldn't have posted this without context

TL;DW

yes the video is (at least partially) about Teflon, hence the cynical title
no, Teflon (or generally big Fluoropolymers) are not the problem. Ingesting them does nothing to you, because as long, chemically inert polymers they just pass through you from one end to the other
The problem are perfluoroalkyl acids: C8 (PFOA) and later substitutes such as C6/GenX, PFOS, PFHA, PFHxS which are chemicals used to start the Teflon polymerization. They are short-chained carbon-fluorine molecules that coincidentally mimic the structure of fatty acids, thus can accumulate in our bodies without a way for our bodies to break them down.
These chemicals leach into the environment from factories and accumulate in everything, to the point that the whole water cycle has been contaminated (yes that shit comes down everywhere with the rain)
There is conclusive proof that PFOA exposure is linked to a number of organ damage and cancers, particularly testicular cancer and kidney cancer, with likely links to lung and pancreatic cancer not reflected in the study due to survivor bias (they died before the study was concluded)

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[–] pixxelkick@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just one example, we have many population groups that live in areas where groundwater is used for drinking that also live near a firefighting training base/station that has released huge amounts of PFOAs into the aquifers

Crazy as it sounds but living next to a firefighting training station still biases you towards certain living conditions

Scientists are perfectly fine with using lab, mouse, and emprical cross-sectional studies - that’s all valid scientific evidence.

Yeah obviously, but that's still evidence, not proof, I used the word proce there intentionally.

I'm not suggesting they actually do it, I'm calling out people that take a bunch of very good evidence and then treat it like it's proof. That's all

And I've been using the words proof/prove this whole time.

There's lots of evidence, but there's not enough yet to do more than draw an interesting corollation.

But there's definitely no proof and click bait videos that word it as such are trash

Thats what I am addressing, numties taking this evidence and running off with it to spread disinformation framing it as proof via their choice of words.

Jesus. Fucking. Christ. People need to learn to read.

I'm not sitting here saying PFAS dont cause issues

I'm sitting here calling out clickbait youtubers who frame evidence as proof via poor wording to incite people

God fucking damnit I hate how much people on the internet are so focused on bring right they won't even read what you write properly just so they can find things to pick a fight over. Fuck off lol

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

God fucking damnit I hate how much people on the internet are so focused on bring right they won't even read what you write properly just so they can find things to pick a fight over. Fuck off lol

You mean like someone going uhmm acktually it's not technically a poison, I wish people wouldn't complain about a substance poisoning people when there's no evidence it's poison attempting to make a fairly pointless pedandic statement, while also being confidently incorrect?