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One person dead and five injured after car explodes near IVF facility in Palm Springs
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 17 May 2025
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This is the conclusion of all those "humans are the virus" type posts, all the "I didn't ask to be born" angst. These people think existence is suffering therefore it is morally wrong to have children. They're unwell.
There are bad actors in every group, but the vast majority of these people do not engage in acts of violence.
Painting them with this brush would be like pointing at parents who abuse their children and then saying that all parents abuse their children. It's obvious bullshit.
Nothing wrong with anything you just said, taking action to prevent others from having kids however….
I chose not to have kids not because I didn't ask to be born, but because I am fully aware that I do not have what it takes to be a good parent. I have major issues with sensory overload, and little kids are basically little perfect generators for unpredictable noise and smells.
If I had conceived a kid accidentally, of course I'd spend every last ounce of energy I had in me making sure that they had a lovely childhood. But IMO, being able to recognize this simple fact is what separates me from my own parents, and them not being able to recognize that simple fact is what robbed me of having a childhood at all.
I think there's a big difference between choosing to not have kids for personal reasons and being anti-natalist to such an extent that you see others as subhumans for wanting or having kids. Your experience and feelings are valid and of a sound mind. The person who did this has a twisted mind and lacks empathy.
I get it, but at the same time, some very competent people that could be amazing parents need IVF and it's not right to take that away from them or terrorize them for that choice.
Some might shame them for not adopting, but I think that's a stupid mentality. Not everyone has the same needs to be filled with parenthood. Some want legacy, some want someone to love unconditionally, some want to give back to the community, some want a part of themselves and their partner to be left in this world, etc.
I've even heard some say IVF shouldn't be covered by Universal Healthcare where I live, because "God didn't want them to have kids anyway", but if we went with that mentality, nothing would be covered by Universal Healthcare, because "God didn't want them to live or be cured anyway".
Too many people have a serious lack of empathy for others.