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[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (7 children)

I'm guessing, based purely on the countries highlighted, that this is a Russian sponsored resolution.

There are plenty of more genuine resolutions you could've picked, but they wouldn't have fit your narrative as well. Please don't launder Russia's lies just to embellish your point.

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I'm guessing, based purely on the countries highlighted, that this is a Russian sponsored resolution.

Pretty funny how you saw that all of Latin America, Africa, and Asia voted against genocide, and your first reaction is to call them russian bots.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 weeks ago

More that Ukraine voted against it and every single Western country abstained. Was I wrong though?

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[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

"If Russia says Nazis are bad, than Nazis must be good!"

Liberal politics is just reaction.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I said the resolution is bad, not the principle. You're again misrepresenting something to further your own narrative.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

So the content is the resolution is good, but its nonetheless contacted some kind of metaphysical badness unrelated to it's content due to it being proposed by a bad guy and not a good guy.

Maybe we can get it proposed by Israel instead, then it would be a good guy presenting it because they only invade non-white countries

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[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

“If Russia says combating the glorification of Nazis are bad, they might be using too many modifiers.”

fyp

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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago

We can't condemn the Nazis because if we condemn the Nazis people will think we're Nazis. When people see that we won't condemn the Nazis, that's how they'll know we aren't Nazis.

[–] Manticore@lemmy.nz 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I think its more likely that the abstaining countries rely on America for trade or military in some way and don't want to aggravate them politically but clearly aren't willing to vote alongside them.

[–] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or, as the other (better informed) guy said. This resolution equates tearing down soviet monuments to be Nazism.

That by extension means it equates Ukraine (the country partially occupied and fraudulently annexed by Russia) with Nazism. Countries which respect Ukraine's sovereignty (and have enough skepticism of Russia to read more than the title) wouldn't want to vote against (because of the title) but also wouldn't want to vote in favor.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Tearing down monuments to WW2 veterans who fought against the Nazis certainly suggests a certain affinity with the Nazis.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It doesn't. The enemy of my enemy is not necessarily my friend. Monuments that glorify Soviets might be torn down for a plethora of reasons that don't have anything to do with nazism and have a lot to do with Soviet atrocities.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm comfortable to say people tearing down memorials to the soldiers who faught against the Nazis to replace them with memorials to the people who fought for the Nazis makes you a Nazi.

Feddit continuing not to beat the charges.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Keep spreading Russian propaganda if it makes you happy. Still doesn't mean you're right.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"Russian propaganda!" is the BlueMAGA equivalent of "fake news!"

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"People want to get rid of statues that once symbolised liberation but now are associated with oppression. They must be Nazis and everybody who disagrees with that must be a fake news spreading fascist!"

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When you're trying to claim that statues that symbolise liberation from the Nazis represent oppression, you're a Nazi.

And you were the one screaming the BlueMAGA equivalent of "fake news"

[–] Asetru@feddit.org -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Or maybe, just maybe, getting rid of those that try to symbolise liberation but do so glorifying oppressors while leaving those that don't do the latter is merely some good judgement and not nazism. 🤷

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If you think that memorializing soldiers fighting against the Nazi's is "glorifying oppressors", you're a Nazi. Which makes it particularly perverse of you to try and justify it by posting a page about people murdered by the Nazis.

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”

― Jean-Paul Sartre

[–] Asetru@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Dude, you claim that they're Nazis because they get rid of soviet monuments. I give you a whole page filled with Holocaust memorials that are perfectly fine there, which would have obviously been removed as well if your claim had any validity. And all you come up with is a) "how dare you post that" and now b) "your words don't make sense". This is dumb and citing Sartre doesn't make it any less dumb. Come up with valid arguments or just deal with me saying "nah" if your point is crap.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Asetru@feddit.org 0 points 2 weeks ago

Now you got the spirit.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

The anti-Semites have the right to play.

[–] bob_lemon@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

You would be correct: https://digitallibrary.un.org/record/1654458?ln=en&v=pdf

At the 44th meeting, on 6 November, the representative of the Russian
Federation, on behalf of Algeria, Armenia, Bangladesh, Belarus, Bolivia
(Plurinational State of), Burundi, China, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea,
Eritrea, Kazakhstan, the Lao People’s Democratic Republic, Mali, Myanmar,
Nicaragua, the Niger, Nigeria, Pakistan, the Russian Federation, the Sudan, the Syrian
Arab Republic, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Venezuela (Bolivarian Republic of), Viet Nam
and Zimbabwe, introduced a draft resolution [...]

At the [48th] meeting, the representative of the Russian Federation made a statement.

Also at the same meeting, statements were made by the representatives of Kyrgyzstan (on behalf of the Collective Security Treaty Organization, composed of Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, the Russian Federation, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan), Belarus, the Russian Federation and South Africa.

[–] Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 weeks ago

Lol stay stupid patriot

[–] skarn@lemmy.today 0 points 2 weeks ago

Note that Crimea is not counted as Ukrainian in this map. Makes you wonder.