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Yeah Biden absolutely could've withheld aid and ended the genocide with 1 phone call but he loves genocide too much
I think it's indifference rather than love, but yeah, he could have done so much with so little to stop it, with little risk of the Democrats losing the White House in 2024. Ditto Harris. (Ditto Trump—health concerns aside, he still has 45 months to at least try to redeem himself a bit.)
The Leahy law required that he withhold arms sales.
He broke the law for netanyahu.
Then I suppose he can be prosecuted.
By whom?
Presumably an American court.
Neither democrats nor republicans are willing to prosecute, so the law is meaningless.
Lucky you.
I'm not sure about Republicans.
You think republicans are gonna prosecute biden while trump is doing the same thing? You think they're gonna set that precedent? they just got scotus to rule that the president is above the law.
Congressional ones who have little hope in becoming President might. Also many are hypocrites.
Didn't SCOTUS did that by themselves—I suppose to reward Trump for choosing them.
So why would the trump administration's DoJ seek to curtail it?
Presumably they wouldn't curtail it for Trump, but they might for Biden.
Biden has a life time of publicly loving the genocidal state of Israel.
I suppose; but many Americans preferred him to Trump.
Ok, what's your point?
Many Americans would rather vote for a leader who supports Israeli genocide of Palestinians a little less than the Republican candidate who supports Israeli genocide of Palestinians a little more. It's why if I was American, I'd support neither Democrats nor Republicans.
Ok...? What does any of that have to do with the point at hand?
It's also not true, Biden has been a hard core supporter of Israel's genocide for decades, the idea that he supports it less than the Republicans is just genocide apologia.
Then by your definition, I'm an apologist for genocide.
Yes, correct.
and do you think that Trump is no worse than Biden when it comes to supporting genocide?
In Palestine? Correct, he is no worse.
Netanyahu is no better than Hitler,
Hitler was no worse than Netanyahu.
Both committed mass murder and genocide and are therefore equally evil.
Agree?
No. You appear to be deliberately missing my point here. I never said anything close to what you seem to be trying to imply: that they are both equally bad because evil is a binary thing with no degrees of difference. I am explicitly saying that there is no difference in the degree of their evil when it comes to Palestine.
IIUC, you're telling me that when it comes to Palestine, Biden is no better than Trump, or conversely, Trump is no worse than Biden.
At times I tend to agree with this, but I say it while acknowledging that I don't know everything about the issue—I am no expert on this. For all I know, Biden might be worse, or Trump might be worse; which is why I wouldn't be so quick to call someone who thinks one isn't as bad as the other an apologist for fascism. IMO, if you say that, you better know what you're talking about. You want to bash Biden or the Democrats from a leftist POV, go right on ahead, but your (apparent at least) pontificating makes you look like an elitist.
Correct, and I'm strongly opposed to the concerted effort to white wash Biden in this regard, considering it tantamount to soft genocide denial.
It may be unintentional, or well meaning, but ultimately it does serve to apologize for fascism. And I'm particularly distasteful at the moment because I'm see a strong concerted push to spread the idea. We are essentially seeing history being rewritten in front of us.
Assuming he is that bad—which again I'm not sure, though I think he is or close to it—but when someone calls me a fascist, I find it hard to take them seriously. It's like when someone accuses me of having TDS my typical reply is of course that I indeed have TDS, anybody who doesn't worship Trump has TDS.