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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

This is a very umm ackshully ☝️🤓 response.

Yes, Android is a (extremely heavily forked) Linux distribution. I'd be willing to bet money the above poster knows that too. You aren't giving us new information here.

Furthermore, I think you knew what the above user's point was: they want a more open phone and OS landscape where users are the boss of their own software and hardware, not tech giants.

Android is, in practical terms, its own thing, under Google's control, bundles all kinds of Google crap, and can't be replaced on most phones.

[–] pelya@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Yes, Android is a (extremely heavily forked) Linux distribution.

Well ackshually Android kernel nowadays is built from an upstream unmolested Linux kernel sources, straight from Torvalds' git repository.

And the rest is just the init system, which is not systemd so it's better by definition even though it's written in Java, and a display server written in Java, because there was no Wayland when Android development started.

[–] __nobodynowhere@sh.itjust.works -2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Yes. The point is Linux doesn't solve the problem of megacorps and it's not like Linux on phones isn't something that hasn't been tried before. Projects like Ubuntu Touch and Firefox OS went nowhere.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

The point is Linux doesn't solve the problem of megacorps

You still aren't getting it.

That user already knows that Android is a heavily-forked version of Linux.

They already know that simply including some Linux code won't magically make everything pure and wonderful, because they know that we already have Linux code in Android, and as they point out, it isn't pure and wonderful.

it's not like Linux on phones isn't something that hasn't been tried before. Projects like Ubuntu Touch and Firefox OS went nowhere.

Canonical didn't even try with Ubuntu Touch, they never released anything to market. They did a Kickstarter that raked in more than anything else ever had, then they gave up.

I'm not certain Mozilla ever had real devices on the market either.

Besides, just because there have been two failures in the past doesn't mean it's impossible, or that the above user is wrong for desiring a proper Linux smartphone.