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[–] splendoruranium@infosec.pub 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Yes, I guess what I’m asking is are we pretending that this “conditioning” isn’t a real thing? I also read recently (sorry if this is wrong) that there was a study done on arousal of breasts between societies where they are covered up vs where they are not. It found the level of arousal remained consistent.

Why wouldn't having to deal with that arousal be the problem and responsibility of the aroused instead of, by default and preemtively, limiting the rights of any prospective and involuntary "arousee" in existence?

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

If arousal isn’t a real thing and it’s the fault of the person being aroused, would that suggest total nudity should be ok as well?

[–] splendoruranium@infosec.pub 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

If arousal isn’t a real thing and it’s the fault of the person being aroused, would that suggest total nudity should be ok as well?

Remember this whole discussion is about discrimination. So what you're asking is "In contexts where full male body nudity is arbitrarily deemed acceptable, why wouldn't full female body nudity be acceptable as well?"

And the answer, of course, is that there's no reason to make a distinction, is there?

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Well yes. In the same context there are varying degrees of nakedness. A man only need his pants off to be able to describe him as exposing himself, you know exactly what’s going on and the rest is kind of irrelevant. Whereas with a woman you would have to specify as to whether she is exposing her genitals or breasts.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Some of these users are unironically repeating rape cultural word for word and in this case with the add on of "I'm just asking questions". Thanks for sticking it to them. =)

[–] splendoruranium@infosec.pub 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Some of these users are unironically repeating rape cultural word for word and in this case with the add on of “I’m just asking questions”. Thanks for sticking it to them. =)

I really don't think that's a useful mindset. We're all just people here, having conversations and - ideally - socratic dialogues. What could be gained by sticking anything to anyone?

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 47 minutes ago

Because some people are not arguing in good faith. Sometimes it's best to call them out on what they're doing so people learn to recognize the behavior.

This comment section is not the first time this topic has been thought about and discussed.