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[โ€“] iii@mander.xyz 102 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (49 children)

Every year they try to push this same shit with a new name. One day there will be a reichstag fire and it will be passed.

So fucking transparant, yet I don't see a way to stop them.

[โ€“] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 20 points 1 month ago (37 children)

Pretty straightforward: join anarchist groups like the ccc and the fau, vote radical left and tell everyone you know to do the exact same. It already helps in some areas, just keep doing it.

[โ€“] KumaSudosa 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And how do you ensure that the "radical left" doesn't support surveillance measures? Not like the ideology has a good track record on that matter.

[โ€“] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You mean like every other government? I dont. Radical leftists stand for human rights. Of course there is a chance that they get coopted. But every other political ideology does not need to get coopted to oppress people.

[โ€“] KumaSudosa 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Most moderate anything government doesn't even begin to come anywhere close to the control of a "radical" leftist state.

What is your basis for "radical" leftists standing for human rights? Radical leftists are rarely liberally minded. I don't disagree that many left-wing parties stand for decency, environmental protection, and various rights - but "radicals" do not.

[โ€“] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You are making assumptions. It shows that you dont have any idea of leftism.

The idea of leftism is that people (and animals in most cases) are the same and deserve their needs met.

You can criticize the measures taken to ensure this, especially in capitalist societies where you may have to use force to break capitalist resistance. If all you ever knew is rape, being disallowed to rape can feel repressive. But its still okay to repress it.

And it is okay to disagree on this. Thats why we have both anarchists and marxists. Massively simplified, one party wants to mentally arm the population and push for a self educating, politically mature population. The other one wants to change the system from the top and reeducate the public on cooperation and classless society while forcefully repressing the regressive ideas.

They both actually want the same, communism. The classless, stateless society.

Of course that is an ideal, a utopia that might never be real but the millions of people dying under capitalism every year and the exploited people all over the world, the exploited planet that is starting to kick us out are WAY worse than all that has been seen before. The strongest argument for marxism is the limited time we have before we will just die out (starting with those who already are exploited the most today).

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