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Transphobia guidelines (feddit.uk)

submitted 1 week ago by flamingos@feddit.uk to c/feddituk@feddit.uk

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Good day all, in response to the increase in transphobia we've experience since the For Women Scotland v Scotland Supreme Court decision, seemingly a mix of genuine malice and people tripping up with a topic they're unfamiliar with, I've taken the initiative to write some guidelines on how to engage in the topic and clearing up some common misconceptions.

https://guide.feddit.uk/politics/transphobia.html

I'm not all that happy with them, I want something more comprehensive but my time has been pretty taxed lately and I don't want my perfectionism to stand in the way of having these out. If there's any issues, glaring omissions or whatnot, then please let me know or make a pull request here.

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[–] rah@feddit.uk 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I don't even know what 'detrans discussions' means

I mean discussions similar to those in Reddit's /r/detrans, /r/actual_detrans, /r/ask_detransition, etc. or in fact any discussions around detransitioning. In my experience, such communities and discussions very much do not toe the trans party line.

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

/r/detrans

I checked it out and it seems like an absolute cesspool, so no 'discussions' like the what happens there aren't allowed.

In my experience, such communities and discussions very much do not toe the trans party line.

Here is a quote from the top post in that community today:

How long will we pretend they aren’t violent braindead porn-addicted narcissists who hate us because our existence challenges their narrative and provides a living experience for those ones who aren’t completely sure about transmuting themselves into fake males/females so that they can address what’s wrong with them and why they do feel so much distress about their bodies and biological sex?

Is it really any wonder why people not drowning in this trans-hating sludge would find this objectionable?

[–] rah@feddit.uk 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Here is a quote from the top post in that community today:

That's not the kind of discussion I was referring to although there are indeed a lot of angry detransitioners there. I meant more serious discussion like the following. And it's worth bearing in mind that /r/detrans only allows participation by people who either are currently trans or who were trans and have detransitioned:

It's crazy how much of trans culture is "letting the intrusive thoughts win". There's this whole mindset of "you are your urges and if you don't act on them you're denying your true self, which will have dire consequences".

Sentiments I've seen expressed in online trans spaces include:

"Cis" people don't question their gender. If you ever question your gender you are not "cis".

If you are not "cis" you need to do some kind of transition otherwise your life is a lie and you will be miserable forever and probably commit suicide.

Your endogenous sex hormones are poisoning/ruining your body and you need to start HRT ASAP to prevent further damage.

You need to start transitioning ASAP, every moment you spend not having started transition is wasted and a lie. If you wait too long it will be too late, you will never be able to live as your true self, and you will be miserable forever and probably commit suicide.

Any mental health issues/life problems you're experiencing were actually gender dysphoria all along.

If you search the memories of your past, you'll find evidence that you were always meant to transition.

If you're unsure about your "gender identity" you should try transition anyway so you can be sure. Try out names, pronouns and outfits. Try HRT.

If you are dysphoric and HRT lessens it, transition was the right choice. If HRT makes your dysphoria worse, or you start experiencing dysphoria on HRT when you didn't before, this also means that transition was the right choice, because HRT helped you to stop repressing your feelings.

If you are questioning your gender but have neutral/positive feelings about some sexed part of your body, you are in denial. Once you fully accept your identity you'll realise that you hate that body part too and were repressing your true feelings.

If you want to transition, you should. If you don't want to transition or are worried/scared that you'll have to transition, this also means that you should, because you're repressing/in denial.

Any doubts you have about transition are denial and internalised transphobia.

These people are straight up encouraging obsession and paranoia. Once you're introduced to the culture and start "questioning" (and all kinds of things count as "questioning"), every path you're presented with ends with "you need to transition ASAP otherwise things will get massively worse and it might kill you". The brainrot is difficult to eradicate, and potentially life-ruining for anyone with OCD, intrusive thoughts, hyperfixations, or similar issues.

Anyone who expresses dissatisfaction with the state of the community gets chastised and/or kicked out. This happened to me once. A few years ago I was in a Discord with some friends, many of whom started identifying as trans/non-binary. One day I said something they interpreted as "transphobic" and was promptly dogpiled and banned from the server (one person sent me a high and mighty message about how I should "rescind my statement" if I wanted to be unbanned). People from the server contacted my best friend and urged him to stop associating with me (he was a reasonable guy so he didn't).

-- https://www.reddit.com/r/detrans/comments/1kdqur4/trans_culture_cognitohazards/

Is this kind of discussion prohibited?

[–] flamingos@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

That's more than just an 'angry detransitioners', it's pretty textbook transphobia. It's a problem with the entire subreddit, it's not a place for detransistors to talk and support each other (I imaging detransitioning is emotionally quite gruelling), but a place for people opposed to the very idea of transition to express some pretty horrific views on it. The vast majority of the top posts in that community are talking about is the idea that transition, and the wider trans community, is an insidious plot to prey on the vulnerable and it taints everything that comes out of there, even the post you linked to.

This post also has nothing to do with detransition, so it's quite suspect that you asked about 'detransition discussions' only to bait-and-switch to criticism of online trans communities. Yes, there are problems with online trans communities that can be pointed out, this isn't inherently transphobic; plenty of trans people criticise egg culture, for example. But the way that community does it is transphobic, saying the trans community is an insidious cult that preys on the vulnerable with lies is textbook transphobia.

I'm going to stop engaging now as this got quite tedious a while ago. I'll address situations as they arise, and add any needed clarification to the guidelines.