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[–] termaxima@programming.dev 106 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

“To protect children” is a stupid reason, but banning smoking anywhere outside of your own home, or spaces expressly dedicated to it, on the other hand, is how it should always have been.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

There is an absolute metric shitload of proven scientific evidence that smoke inhalation causes lasting damage to developing lungs and hearts. Do you deny this scientific evidence?

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

I took it to mean that we should protect everything and everybody, not just the children. I could be wrong in my interpretation.

[–] boughtmysoul@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Replace “children” with “non-consenting people” and you’re getting close. Children are the most non-consenting people in society and deserve special protection accordingly.

[–] ADTJ@feddit.uk 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm from the UK where it's at least banned indoors.

Visiting European pubs/bars where people still smoke is nuts and my clothes always stink after

[–] Renohren@lemmy.today 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The same ban exists in France and most other EU countries. And the fines/administrative closures are quite stringent.

[–] brewery@feddit.uk 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, went to Spain, and woke up with a sore throat and really smelly clothes. Took me back to before the ban and realised how good that was for everyone

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I don't know where you went, but since 2011 it's been illegal to smoke indoors in Spain. It's still legal to smoke on outdoor seating in bars/restaurants, but fortunately that's going to be made illegal as well.

[–] brewery@feddit.uk 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It was illegal but not enforced at all or followed by the locals, so not followed by anybody else either. During the day was fine but in the evening and night it was like there was no law

[–] sneezycat@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Let me guess, Mallorca? I'm guessing the tourist places are more lax in that aspect, because there is no way you can smoke inside where I live, the pubs can get a very big fine if you do.

[–] nik9000@programming.dev 3 points 4 days ago

I was in Vegas a couple weeks back. Same problem.

[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee 9 points 4 days ago

I'd argue the less prevalent smoking is in public the less likely children will turn to smoking in the future. makes sense to me

[–] ClusterBomb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 days ago

Smoking should be banned. Full stop. When my neighbours smoke I can't even open my window, I have asthma. The smell attaches to the walls. There is also my kitchen where I cook and I can't enjoy my little place outside because it constantly smells cigarette because they smoke regulary.

[–] shplane@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

“To protect children” is a stupid reason

Just depends on what sells the legislation. People can be very entitled but they might bend if it’s to “protect the children”

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

It works in this case. I believe developing lungs are more susceptible to damage plus children have more life ahead of them to live with damaged lungs. Most importantly we want them to have the opportunity to live without the lung damage we already have.

And of course the practical reason is they already can’t smoke. You’re not taking anything away from them