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1970s AI bros (incl McCarthy) whining about the inventor of ELIZA telling them to gfy (dl.acm.org)

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[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

John McCarthy's really sounding like a typical libertarian prat.

He concludes that since a computer cannot have the experience of a man, it cannot understand a man. There are three points to be made in reply. First, humans share each other's experiences and those of machines or animals only to a limited extent. In particular, men and women have different experiences.

l.m.f.a.o., we're going there are we now

[–] nightsky@awful.systems 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Also great, right after that:

Nevertheless, it is common in literature for a good writer - to show greater understanding of the experience of the opposite sex than a poorer writer of that sex.

Yeeeaah, sure. And to write that in the 1970s even.

If anything, this McCarthy reply makes me want to read the Weizenbaum book.

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

From page 202:

Few "scientific" concepts have so thoroughly muddled the thinking of both scientists and the general public as that of the "intelligence quotient" or "I.Q." The idea that intelligence can be quantitatively measured along a simple linear scale has caused untold harm to our society in general, and to education in particular.

[–] nightsky@awful.systems 3 points 1 day ago

That's it, I'm ordering a copy.