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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

They’re free to smoke when and where they’re not harming anyone.

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Like outside more than 10 feet from a doorway? Surely 10 feet is enough to change your walking path and save yourself from a waft.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If you’re a smoker you may be surprised at the distance your smoke impacts other people. The smell, the cloud, The ash extends far beyond a mere ten feet. Where I live the law is 20 feet from an entrance and that’s just not enough.

The problem is you can’t change your path from an entrance because you may have to enter and exit. The problem is further that multiple smokers tend to congregate at the mandated distance so the smoke is much worse. It needs to be significantly farther.

But then it’s worse again in a city area, where the sidewalks are also a bottleneck. I can’t always cross the street to avoid smokers but frequently have to pass right next to them. And I’d like to point out they are the ones inflicting their vice/addiction on others. It should not be my responsibility to get out of the way of their bad habit when their reasonable accommodation would not inflict it on others

[–] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My point is that it is within the realm of normal annoyances from other people and there should be a reasonable expectation of both politeness from the smoker and tolerance from others. A strong perfume, a fart, body odor, spicy food, and many other gasses can be encountered at any point from a similar distance, but nobody suggests punishing people for those.

I find the desire to over legislate things due to personal preferences about how other people behave is a bigger and more annoying vice than smoking.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

This is why we can never have good things. There’s always someone who doesn’t care about their fellow human beings, doesn’t care about acting shitty, doesn’t care that their choices impact others. Run into enough anti-social people who will not cooperate with society and the natural reaction is to establish a rule.

I would much prefer we have a civilized society where people care about their impact on others and equally care that others have a right to their preferences and we can all figure out how to live with each other. But people suck. Or too many people do

And yes, people do complain about excessive perfume, body odor, and flatulence. I personally would not legislate these because it’s a lot less frequent, a lot less potential lung damage to bystanders and people show shame. If I complain about someone having too much perfume or it triggers a perfectly normal allergic reaction reaction, you can bet they’ll be embarrassed and likely to try not to reoffend. If I complaint about smokers too close to an entrance stinking up my clothes, making me inhale their ashes, ruining my dining experience, do you really think they’ll be as accommodating?