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[โ€“] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.cafe 79 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Ohhhh....this provides much needed context & clarity that I didn't have before. When I hear there's been a 'shooting' in America, while this is technically correct, I don't think it's one person shooting another. I hear 'shooting', and I think one or more shooters/multiple targets/largely indiscriminate just one group vs another.

By all accounts, this is very discriminatory & targeted. Obviously. I would word it as "Jonathan Joss murdered", then explain he was gunned down by a deranged homophobe.

Until just now, I genuinely assumed Mr. Joss got caught up in a mall or gang shooting. This is especially tragic & inexcusable, such targeted hatred.

[โ€“] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Tbh, most "shootings" in America aren't active shooter events in the way you expect. Most are targeted and related to other crime (be it robbery, revenge, domestic assault, etc), some fit the definition of mass shooting (4 or more shot incl shooter) but it's gang/crime/drug related and often in those cases a bystander or two, more fall in that category than random mass shooter events by an order of magnitude.

The mass/school shootings you imagine are actually incredibly rare statistically, something like 0.00094% last time I checked. In fact even most "school shootings" are the same, with one or no people injured, and targeted. Or even accidental discharge with no injury by the school cop or a suicide in a recently shut down forever school at 3am in a car in the parking lot (real events counted in everytown's school shootings numbers a few years ago).

Hate crimes are for sure more common, actually.