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So, Ive recently gotten back into writing and been thinking about how much more fun it would be to write Outside. Problem is, the sun hates screens. I have an Alphawrite Neo, of course, but I've always been insecure about lugging a weird educational device around with me in public. So I started looking into Eink tablets that could be used with a keyboard and

Jesus H. Christ, that price tag!

I just want something to type on something. Apparently thats strange, so maybe there will be something cheaper as just a word processor. It seems that the only reasonable offering here is the Freewrite Traveler, though, so I look it up and

WHY‽ It's the same price!

Okay, maybe I could just get a Raspberry Pi 400 and attach an eInk monitor to it. Apparently, this is not the usual use-case for E-ink, but there are in fact e-ink monitors out there! Most were around a thousand dollars for some reason, but here is the cheapest one I could find:

That's around the price point of a Boox Go, for reference, which has a really slow screen refresh rate.

Why is there no affordable e-paper products that arent a pain to use? I am aware of cheaper ones, but the ones ive seen reviews if aren't able to keep up with typing in a way that seems responsive. And I'm aware that you can find eink displays (as in the component) for as low as $30, so they should be able to be cheaper than this!

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[–] Libb@jlai.lu 51 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

So, Ive recently gotten back into writing and been thinking about how much more fun it would be to write Outside.

I know it's not what you're looking for but since it's the tools I'm using for the exact same purpose you're mentioning, maybe they're worth suggesting?

There is no copy paste, no edit, no syncing either but depending what you wish to write, you may not need that—I certainly don't, and I even prefer this to more high-tech solutions for my purpose.

  • It’s dirt cheap. Less than 30 cents for the Bic (I buy mine in bulk, normal price should be approx. 1.5€), and less than 3 euros for the notebook itself and they both offer at the very least a few weeks worth of writing autonomy. I reckon most countries should have local manufacturers for those tools (less shipping and less waste are always a nice option). Here in France, I like to use the French Bic ballpoint pens and the French Clairefontaine notebooks/papers (it also helps that they’re excellent products)
  • It works great under the sun, on the beach, at the pool, or under the rain. Ballpoint ink is waterproof and quality paper (like in this notebook) can work under the rain and it can even be immerged under water. It will buckle but it will be usable (and readable, if one is using a ballpoint or a pencil) after it dried.
  • Highly portable. It fits in any pocket (and small bag), and the Bic sits nicely within the spirals so no risk of losing it and I never need to search for it.
  • It needs no charging. It needs no software or firmware updates. It has no bugs.
  • It works great with any pen you fancy, be it this cheap Bic pen or some multi thousand € fancy fountain pen.
  • One can use it to write absolutely anything. Poetry, the next best-seller, a secret plan to conquer the world, a list of errands,... You can also use it to sketch, to mindmap, to outline, and so on.
  • It’s not unbreakable but one will need to put in some real effort. Meaning the thing can take a few beatings without any issue. Plus, if it’s too damaged, it’s cheap to replace.
  • Thieve appeal? None. Try letting a tablet or a phone, even a cheap old one unsupervised on any table in a public space…
  • Privacy? OK, it's not encrypted but at the very least no corporation is spying on my notes, ever. And I'm free to write anything I fancy, without worries.
  • Backups? None. I don’t need any since I use for quick notes that I then reuse back at the desk: ideas, dialogues, short descriptions (a few keywords will often do it's rare I need to write complete sentences), or stuff like that. Even stuff I want to write about in my journal (that stays at home) I will simply write a few quick words so when I read them back later one I will remember what it was all about.
  • Icing on the cake? Zero distraction. No social, no games, no Notifications to distract me, and no endless settings and tweaks for me to use as an excuse to fool around and to not be writing ;)

I know it’s low-tech and not trendy at all, but it works great and have been doing so for... centuries (for the notebooks in its current form) if not for millennia (handwriting) and has been used by many authors whose work we're still enjoying/admiring to this day.

[–] blackbrook@mander.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

There's also systems for digitizing this, if you want to be able to just upload and edit it later.

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I know it's low-tech and not trendy at all

I doubt anyone here is looking to spend that much money to make a fashion statement.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 2 points 21 hours ago

I doubt anyone here is looking to spend that much money to make a fashion statement.

Sure, we would know it by now if 'fashion' was working at all to drive sales. And if it was, by now we would be surrounded by ads absolutely everywhere, and our landscapes would be filled with mountain-like piles of trashed useless craps that we would feel the need to regularly throw away in order to make room to buy the newest and latest whatever trendy crap. That's obviously not the case. Aren’t we lucky.

Let me ask you this: for what reason do you think most people buy the latest $1000+ smartphone?

Is it because they need the hardware, be it the titanium or whatever metal body because they regularly heat their phone so much that titanium is the only reasonable option? Or is because it looks somehow cooler? Or maybe it’s because they need more pixels in order to share a sharper video of, say, the latest revolutionary brain surgery procedure they devised? Or is it in order to share some video of their cat, or their latest shopping spree, or film themselves in front of whatever touristic destination they fancy visiting? Please, do note that I wrote 'most people' and not all of them, as I certainly don't doubt a few targeted consumers do indeed need whatever new features are made available.

So, as a matter of fact, I do think a lot of people are more than willing to spend whatever amount of money they consider reasonable, be it a couple hundred bucks on e-ink device, or 1 million dollars on a diamond incrusted fountain pen, or even 50 billions to buy their own Twitter (which is also a writing device, mind you). Or do you think a 1 million dollars fountain pen write that much better? Hint: it doesn’t.

Do I think the OP is one of those person? I have no idea and how would I know? But, contrary to you, I don’t care at all because I don’t think it matters.

I simply offered a cheap (answering the OP exact concern) alternative to e-ink, an alternative I know is very often overlooked because, well, it’s so low tech (which is not great in a society that has a constant ~~hardon~~ interest for high-tech).

[–] Ludrol@szmer.info 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

it has no bugs

unless you stick it into an anthill

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 9 points 2 days ago

You got a point :)

[–] neblem@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I don't have much to say except I love the amount of effort you put into that comment! Thanks for making the fedi awesome!

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 8 points 2 days ago

Thank you very much, you're more than welcome.