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An argument can be made that all actions people take are for their own self-interest. Even things like helping the community is done for reciprocal benefits for yourself plus the general increase in respect.

Another point is that if all people just act for their own self-interest, they will have a better life themselves, and if everyone does the same, some sort of proper balance will be achieved.

I have been having some occasional discussions with my friends over this. I personally disagree, but would love to hear what others have to say. Feel free to discuss!

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[โ€“] SippyCup@feddit.nl 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Define self interest.

It is in your best interest to invest heavily in childhood education and recruit young people in to the agricultural sector. That is also in society's best interest. As it happens the only people doing that are those who can see the problem even with short sighted goggles on.

Most people do not look beyond their short sighted goggles. Most of those goggles come with blinders on the sides.

Human civilization as a whole is maintained by people with blinders and goggles on, and we were trucking along just fine, and will continue to do so until we're standing in ruins of our own making.

The contextual and memetic aspect of what constitutes a "person's self interest" far outweights the person's actual decision and the individual actor cannot be removed cleanly from the wider discussion envelopping what this "self-interest" even is.

The "law" and its detterence logic shapes what "self-interest" is. Talkibg heads shape your understanding of reality and anchor what your self-interest is and means.

Nobody has self-interests in a vacuum.

[โ€“] gay_sex@mander.xyz 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I wonder if the fact that human civilization has lasted and flourished for so long is just a stroke of luck then.....

[โ€“] SippyCup@feddit.nl 1 points 3 days ago

It has collapsed before. It will collapse again.