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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Watch out, the enlightened centrist has arrived!

Winston Churchill, Adolf Hitler, well, they are both bad people. Let's root for neither of them.

[–] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I get what you're saying but you couldn't have chosen a worse example... Like yeah absolutely fuck Churchill lol, he's a huge part of the reason why we're in this mess with Israel now

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Still I would have rooted for Churchill when it comes to the conflict of Nazi Germany versus Britain because I am able to separate actions from blindly supporting everything.

Iran too did absolutely horrible things in the past They sent a lot of children to die during their war with Iraq. The Mahsa Amani stuff everyone keeps bringing up is so lightweight but Western propagaganda is the dumbest stuff.

However, currently Iran is aiding Palestine and fighting Israel and they are not sending children to die for it. So I support that action.

[–] Mouette@jlai.lu 5 points 3 days ago

Churchill ain't done shit to defeat Hitler, try with Stalin

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's still a good example because as bad as Churchill was he was better than Hitler.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Was he, though? How many millions did he murder in the manmade Bengal famine?

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not denying Churchills crimes or painting him as good.

How many would Hitler have murdered if he had similar control over the region? Just look at General plan Ost...

There's a reason the USSR tried to ally with Churchill against Hitler before hostilities even started.

[–] AES_Enjoyer@reddthat.com 4 points 3 days ago

Sure, you have a point, just wanted to remind people that western European countries enacted many genocides to similar scale than Nazi Germany (or greater)