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[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What do you expect iran to do want the whole west is imposing severe sanctions harming regular citizens. Iran as no choice but to work with russia. Iran could have been an neutral country if americans, israelis and britosh didn't support the shah coup

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I expect them to stop harming their own civilians, too.

We don't need to cheer on an oppressive, totalitarian regime just because they're at odds with another oppressive, totalitarian regime.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Funny, I've been saying this for the last three years and liberals have been telling me that that makes me a tankie Putin simp.

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Based on your other comment, I'm inclined to agree with the liberals.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am cheering iran right to self defence not the regime harming their own civilians.

Do you condemn israel starting the war and killing civilians ?

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yes I condemn Israel, this isn't an either/or type of situation. Both countries are shitty.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml -1 points 13 hours ago

Ukraine is also pretty shitty, but no one seems to have any problem understanding why people would cheer them on when they get attacked.

Funny how liberals can only extend that privilege to white countries

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We saw how western and Israel intervention always has devastating effect to the population of those countries. The only rational way to think about this is Iran has to defend itself against foreign power known for indiscriminate destructions . Once once it is repealed . The Iranian population can fight against the regime

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

Sure, not saying Iran doesn't have the right to defend itself.

Revolution is sort of a separate consideration, however. Governments often use war as an excuse to continue eroding the basic rights of citizens, and Iran is no stranger to theocratic fascism. Revolutions can begin during wars.

1940's China paused its revolution in order to face the existential threat of Japan. On the other hand, 1910's Russia began its revolution during the ongoing conflict of the Great War. The people will reach a breaking point whenever things become too intolerable. It's different for each example.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Only soldiers on the ground by the usa may make the regime fall. Iran war will never got worse than gaza war. Despite famine, only few gazans are protesting hamas.

I will also repeat that western interventions always has terrible effects

[–] Stovetop@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

I think we're having separate conversations, this is about a much needed people's revolution by the citizens in Iran to course correct for the Western meddling that landed them in their current situation.