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Brett Wilkins Jun 16, 2025

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Military-focused news sites reported that around 30 U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers were identified by flight-tracking software in what The Times of Israelcalled an "unprecedented mass deployment" to Europe.

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Wasn't Trump the peaceful dove?

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago

No.

We had a lot of "I'm willing to make deals with anyone" rhetoric from the Trump campaign that low-info voters took to mean he was anti-war.

But the underlying Pentagon leadership hasn't significantly changed between Biden and Trump (or Bush and Trump, for that matter). Its all the same neoconservative think tanks writing variations on Project For A New American Century for the modern government.

The idea that you were going to elect an anti-war president went out the window during the primaries. Vanishingly few federal office holders have shown opposition to attacking Iran. Less than what we had in 2003 against Iraq.

Everyone from Richie Torres to Mike Lee seem on board with a brand new Holocaust in the Middle East.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Everyone knew he wasn't going to be able to curtail democratic elections without the excuse of a war. This is on schedule.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I always thought Trump could curtail democratic elections without the excuse of war ... by relying on a convenient terrorist attack instead.

[–] Dogyote@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago

Nah, a war in the middle east is normal. Nobody would accept a normal situation as justification to cancel elections.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago (7 children)

Good thing states control the elections.

[–] JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 hours ago

I mean, Trump just illegally deployed the national guard and the marines in California. He needed the state’s permission (which he didn’t get) to deploy the guard and deploying the marines is on a whole other level of illegal.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

We've got an election in NYC right now, with a pro-Palestine Muslim threatening to upset Trump's close friend Andrew Cuomo. Weird that nobody is claiming this election is being threatened by Trump, given that NYC has an enormous stock of Trump/Kushner accumulated capital.

What happens when the federal and state government disagree?

looks at US history book at 1860

👀

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 1 points 6 hours ago

Or 50x the chances for hijinx, depending on your angle.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately the republican run states will bend over whenever Trump tells them to.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's not true, they are protesting too.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago

I mean the republican lawmakers, not the citizens.

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 0 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Not anymore. The SCOTUS ruled already that they must have their ballots approved by the Feds, and feds can overrule their ballots.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

So, Donald wasn't allowed to appear on the Colorado ballot, being an insurrectionist?

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

That's a state issue, not a federal issue.

Donald Trump was allowed to remain on the Colorado ballot despite the challenge based on the 14th Amendment's insurrection clause, because the Supreme Court of the United States ruled that states lack the authority to remove federal candidates from the ballot under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

There is nothing about "approval" from feds, nor is there a process federally to approve such things. There's courts. That's it.

[–] Bluewing@lemmy.world 17 points 10 hours ago

No US president is a peace dove. Between supporting proxie wars to police actions to declared war, they all end up getting people killed by bombs.