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[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Trump killed off the JCPOA in 2018. Biden had four years after 2020 to do something about that and didn't. So I don't know what you're basing your assertion on, it sounds more like wishful thinking to me.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Iran had zero interest immediately re-entering the agreement the previous president just broke. And rightfully so.

Clearly you just want to blame Biden and Democrats for this and pretend things would be just as bad with Harris

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well clearly you have me all figured out, motives and all.

My original argument is specific: the way the European powers have aligned themselves with Israeli craziness does not inspire confidence that the Democrats would have been less hawkish. Underlying assumption: the Democrats tend to be as dovish as the Europeans.

The previous commenter made a counterfactual claim that Harris would not have pulled out of JCPOA and I pointed out that a Harris admin wouldn't have a JCPOA to pull out of.

You're now spinning a narrative around these very simple things I've said. Did the tankies hurt you and now you see them everywhere?

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee -5 points 2 days ago

Biden

i suspect he was holding out til his 2nd term, but did not account for the fact that he had to drop out likely due to his cancer symptoms last year.