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Remember when people didn't get elected because they weren't "presidential" enough?
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YEEEEHAAAAWWWWW
Weird things can happen when you've spent four decades making people poorer and more desperate.
Democrats fall in love with a candidate, Republicans fall in line.
And the DNC removes the candidate democrats fell in love with.
IDK what you mean, Bernie Sanders is the most popular overall politician in the USA and he made it to the final two in multiple presidential primary elections before losing by large margins of votes.
They literally combined super delegates won by different candidates and then said he lost to that.
Another example, David Hogg getting removed after his win.
Idk what year you're talking about but Bernie lost by 3,708,294 votes (Bernie 13,206,428 to Clinton 16,914,722) in 2016 and by 9,400,078 votes (Bernie 9,680,424 to Biden 19,080,502) in 2020.
David Hogg was removed from a committee by vote after another member issued a formal complaint that their February ballot did not follow internal gender parity rules by combining candidates in a way that disadvantaged female candidates. David Hogg left his position gracefully but decided on his own to not run for the position again.
Bernie won NH, NV, and won the popular vote in Iowa in the 2020 primaries. Biden took SC, then right before Super Tuesday, every other candidate in the field dropped out IN UNISON and endorsed Biden. This was a direct action from top DNC leadership to smother out Sanders, a truly viable populist, progressive candidate that threatened status quo Dem economic policies. You can throw numbers around, but you can't erase what we saw with our own eyes.
Then! Then, the Democratic Party said "fuck a primary" in 2024, disguised Biden's lack of mental acuity, forced a candidate on its voters, and built an entire platform (which lost) on appealing to moderate Republicans.
Open your eyes; we either need new leadership, or a new party.
Nobody has ever successfully primaried an incumbent. People like you get made that 2024 primary was normal.
Even if you think Biden somehow stole endorsements, the popular vote difference was double. Biden had double the votes that Bernie had.
What we desperately need is to remove every Republican
I don't think Biden stole anything. I think corporate Dem donors and leadership are legitimately afraid of a popular socialist movement.
If you're arguing that Kamala was the best option, guess what: she lost. If you think running the incumbent would have been better, that's just more evidence that the party doesn't listen, or doesn't care. Perhaps you want to blame the voters? Good luck. ๐คฃ
I don't disagree with your fundamental point; but mindlessly rallying around a political party that doesn't listen to its base is not only stupid, it has become dangerous.
Being afraid to lose is possibly the most pathetic excuse I can imagine to not try anything new.
The DNC aligns with the wants of the american people, the people are just being misled so as to not see it.
Jeez. How sad. I'm done with you. Good luck.
That is just a flat out lie.
The popular vote numbers are convincing on the face until you realize that Sanders conceded before all the primaries were held. This means for a lot of states Biden was the only option.
It would be a better argument if Sanders was a viable candidate in every race.
Regardless he did concede and you can litigate the reasons for that if you guys want.
Lmao, first that guy claims he won the popular vote, then you claim he didn't withdraw many months into both primaries. Whats the next claim going to be? That the DNC chairs held each voter at gunpoint?
he has been aipac agent for last two decades. just toned it down lately like biden to pretend he is not a rabid zionist.