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[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 86 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Three R’s to deGoogling: Reduce, replace, remove.

I would say start by changing your browser and search engine (lots of options out there today), and then set up your own domain for email hosting so you can try different providers.

There isn’t another YouTube with all that content out there, so that one is tough, but you don’t have to 100% de google, 50% is still good. 15% is still good.

[–] JessieGearGirl@lemmy.world 1 points 12 hours ago

set up your own domain for email hosting

cannot recommend this enough!

  1. register your domain through something like porkbun
  2. get an account with someone like mxroute.com (i am a fan, but not an affiliate or anything)
  3. enjoy pain-free email for the rest of your life
[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Your own domain for email hosting is a massive pain in the ass. Have you not run into a million problems with other hosting providers refusing you for possibly spam?

[–] pathief@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Self hosting an email server is a pain in the ass and I don't really recommend it.

Buying your own domain and using it in whatever email provider you want is very easy and gives you ownership over the email address. You may switch providers freely without needing anyone else to do anything.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

I wasn’t self hosting. I was just talking about your own domain, which caused me serious problems when flagged for spam.

Edit: I’m guessing it’s easier nowadays but I still carry that pain lol

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

That’s not an issue with a custom domain name, but one of the other parts you run into, SPF and DKIM dns settings being correct and the reputation of whatever SMTP server’s ip address is. No one spam-bins based just on random domain names, or every business would freak out. You can also use your own domain on Google, Microsoft, or Apples ecosystems, not that you need to, there are plenty of providers that will host your email. I like runbox.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Oh shit is that what the issue was??? Thank you for explaining! I thought it was literally blacklisted like that. I told those worthless dumbfucks to whitelist my domain and that shit just kept happening—and they made me do all the work every time. It was exhausting and frustrating. I’ll look into runbox, thanks again.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago

I wonder if there might be some super common spam tlds like .xyz or .ru or something, but generally, yeah, custom domain isn’t the issue. Some other options are Migadu, mailbox.org, mxroute, and Tuta all seem like decent companies. A lot of others “also do” email hosting, like porkbun and OVH. Plenty of companies host their email with all these companies and have mostly clear sailing without being spam binned.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

No, not I don’t self host my email which is where a lot of the trouble comes from

I don’t remember having any issues with it ever. That was a concern so I did slowly transition to the custom domain

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

I stopped doing it because I kept getting rejections from Microsoft from my property manager and some other important stuff. Drove me nuts.

[–] Clandestine@lemmy.zip 2 points 21 hours ago

Didn’t try to host a domain myself yet, but having it set up with Proton has given me zero problems thus far.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

[–] MJKee9@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Pobodies nerfect....

[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Despite the lack of content we should mention peertube any time possible to increase knowledge of it, if nothing else

[–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Your own domain, but you're safer not hosting your own email servers in general. Just wanted to be clear for anyone reading this. If your mail server is down you don't get mail 🫠

I ended up using a service that isn't Google for that with my own domain

And soft lock yourself… log in to the DNS portal you need 2FA from your email… while your email is having DNS issues lol

[–] wesley@yall.theatl.social 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nebula is an option for some content creators but it is subscription based.

[–] edgarde@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Wish more creators would move to Nebula. I joined on Grady from Practical Engineering's recommendation. His stuff is great.

I haven't quite figured out how to use PeerTube yet.

[–] ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

My own domain?!? Any suggestions??

[–] socsa@piefed.social 1 points 14 hours ago

Furrysmurfporn.ai is available

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Get something on .com or .net. Vanity tlds will piss off reputation services. And make sure you set up spf/dkim

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

Other reason is the renew fees for special tlds are so unpredictable. Com is surprisingly cheap to renew.

[–] AllYourSmurf@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Whatever name fits your fancy. Go with solid registrars like Namecheap or cloudflare.

Once you get your domain, you can use most any email provider to handle mail for that domain. Fastmail is really good. Or proton if you want the encryption.

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Gotta also recommended porkbun for a registrar, had a great experience with then.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Porkbun + runbox here. Domain and email together cost less than $30 a year. You can use the domain for free with GitHub pages or cloudflare for a free website too.

[–] Redex68@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I personally picked Mailfence, but I saw both runbox and mailfence are really good. Tho Mailfence is a bit more expensive

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

That’s pretty much my setup, it is not super hard to get working, it’s basically just copying and pasting the magic numbers they give you