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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I have asked a few times why PDP deserves all the hate. The best answer I got is "look it up yourself". I did, and the only things I found were many years old, and in each instance (of which there aren't that many) he apologized publicly and acknowledged that things got out of hand. To me, his apologies seem sincere and genuine - none of that "I'm sorry I got caught" bullshit that actual scumbags are known for.

I don't watch PewDiePie but he's alright best I can tell. If I've missed something, please let me know what that is, and be specific because I genuinely can't find it.

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

he said the N-word, hard R and all

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah that wasn't a great moment, but if you look at the context for that you'll see that it wasn't even talking about a black person. It was just an expletive, like saying "motherfucker" or "son of a bitch" etc.

Keep in mind that outside of USA the N word is not nearly as charged politically and racially as it is within the USA. And PDP is Swedish IIRC, not American.

Edit: my point is that his usage of that word - which AFAIK only happened once - is not indicative of his character. It's just indicative that he was really angry at that moment and human brains for some reason use expletives in those cases.

[–] Sandouq_Dyatha@lemmy.ml 1 points 14 hours ago

he had a heated gamer moment

[–] Mwa@thelemmy.club 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I heard he's Hated cause he's a Nazi apparently.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's not a claim to make without some evidence. There is a thing he did a long time ago on fiverr, and from my POV that does not reflect on his views at all. I can explain my reasoning if you want. Other than that incident, is there any other reason to suspect he's a Nazi?

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/2/17/14613234/pewdiepie-nazi-satire-alt-right

He has repeatedly and overtly used Nazi imagery, made a multitude of "jokes" like this:

Mr. Kjellberg says the material is portrayed in jest. He showed a clip from a Hitler speech in a Sept. 24 video criticizing a YouTube policy, posted swastikas drawn by his fans on Oct. 15 and watched a Hitler video in a brown military uniform to conclude a Dec. 8 video. He also played the Nazi Party anthem before bowing to a swastika in a mock resurrection ritual on Jan. 14, and included a very brief Nazi salute with a Hitler voice-over saying “Sieg Heil” and the text “Nazi Confirmed” near the beginning of a Feb. 5 video.

[...]

In addition to more overt Nazi symbolism, Kjellberg makes references to the alt-right that are veiled but obvious if you know where to look. In one video from late August, he makes an extended racist joke comparing Harambe the gorilla to Saturday Night Live and Ghostbusters actress and comedian Leslie Jones, echoing the widespread politically tinged, racist harassment that Jones endured last summer, largely from the alt-right.

And in another video from November, Kjellberg overlays a swastika, along with audio of a speech from Hitler, over unrelated commentary about clickbait YouTube channels. He then goes on to refer to BuzzFeed as “a bunch of cucks” — “cuck” being an alt-right buzzword.

[–] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

Has nothing new has come up since 2017-2018?

[–] Microw@piefed.zip -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Absolutely true for the time the article was written (2017). He changed his ways after the Christchurch attacks which happened in 2019.

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (2 children)

He has stated his favourite author is a Japanese fascist who wanted to restore the emperor, Yukio Mishima, who tried to do a coup and killed himself when he failed.

But I'm sure he just likes the guy for his prose, and has no particular fixation or interest in Nazi and fascist imagery and politics.

[–] srecko@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I agree with the other things people mentioned, and I don't care that he did it for the money, attention of if he has nazi views (the point that he did it is important). But Mishima is really stretching it. He is really popular outside Japan and has a good prose. Much much nore non nazis like his writing so I wouldn't call it a dog whistle.

[–] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If it acts like a Nazi, Likes Nazi reading, And insists it's not a Nazi.

It's a Nazi.

[–] srecko@lemm.ee 0 points 20 hours ago

I agree about that part, just that it shouldn't be used against other people who like Mishima (he is not my cup of tea but some people I know who like him are definitrly not nazis)

[–] Microw@piefed.zip 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When did he state this? Recently?

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 5 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Mate, are you really just gonna keep moving the goalposts and doing this subpar jordan peterson fan shit?

Imagine being this pathetically tied to a youtuber, holy shit.

[–] Microw@piefed.zip 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

"Keep moving the goalposts"? Mate this is my first comment in this comment chain. And it does make a difference to me personally if someone said something before a very public turnaround 5 years ago, or recently after this change

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml -2 points 14 hours ago

lmfao

Mate this is my first comment in this comment chain

"in this comment chain" being the operative part, as if people don't have eyes to see you've been doing the same bullshit in this thread.

said something before a very public turnaround 5 years ago,

lmfao when this was started it was how could you possibly think he thought or believed anything bad, now it's before several years ago when he definitely for real changed all his views just don't ask me to name what those views are after I keep demanding everyone else provide evidence, next it'll be "but did he say it literally last week???"

Just shut the fuck up and learn to not be so pathetic. Fucking hell.

[–] zymagoras777@lemmy.world -1 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Mate, did "the left" eat your brain that much that you blame completely different person for things they didn't do?

[–] GlacialTurtle@lemmy.ml 0 points 14 hours ago

Imagine thinking you did anything with this response besides shit your pants then trip landing head first in the toilet bowl.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Being a YouTube personality is enough justification for me.