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I mean samatha/vipassana or whatever.

I encounter things relevant to atheism sometimes when I meditate.

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[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

[…] this particular form of meditation connected to Buddhist religious and spiritual practices […]

[…] perfectly secular or non-spiritual forms of meditation […]

Could you cite some information on both of those to help me understand exactly what you're referring to?

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I apologize, but I'm not the best to explain it, particularly to the specifics of Buddhist meditation. But really, mediation is a catchall for any sort of mental discipline or conditioning. Like practicing mindfulness or simply maintaining a state of calmness, right?

What OP asked specifically about is samatha and vipassana, which are forms of meditation from buddhist teachings. They're inherently buddhist. Samatha is itself not particularly offensive; it's basically a technique for mindfulness and focus. But vipassana? it's the pursuit of enlightnement through meditation and gaining insight into 'reality'.

I'm not particularly surprised by the OP reporting the encounters with "spirits". Deep meditation places you into an altered mental not entirely unlike that of psilocybin. Except meditation is lighter, doesn't last as long, and one has more control of where one's experiences go while on the trip.

I have no reason to believe the OP's encounters with spirits was anything other than their brain falling into an altered state and doing what it could to oblige their beliefs and expectations. not like I can very well interact with their spirits in any meaningfully or tangible way.

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago

I apologize, but I’m not the best to explain it

For clarity, I wasn't really looking for an explanation of what they are — I was simply unsure exactly what you were referring to.