Truth be told, I don't want this place, or the Threadiverse, to be considered a lefty safe-space any more than I'd want it to be considered a right wing safe-space. Honestly, I just wish people would leave their political ideology at the door and just interact as people.

Though I'm not naive enough to think that will ever happen on any platform - it's just a wish lol

But the problem with any ideological safe space is the extremes. That's what I feel is not being addressed.

I know it was buried in one of the longer comments I linked, but one point I made was this:

Take some of this rhetoric from Lemmy, replace the proper nouns, and it's indistinguishable from what you'd read on an extreme right-wing board.

That's just not the kind of atmosphere/environment I want to be associated with.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Truth be told, I don't want this place, or the Threadiverse, to be considered a lefty safe-space any more than I'd want it to be considered a right wing safe-space. Honestly, I just wish people would leave their political ideology at the door and just interact as people.

Sure, I'm just noting its wider reputation.

It's not considered extreme really (*excluding some instances). I know you're referring to calls for violence to certain political figures but it's as nothing as to what you'll see on Twitter or 4chan.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 1 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Fair enough; 'extreme' is as relative a term as "hot" or "cold" is.

I guess I'm just using "would the average person say this in polite conversation?" as my reference point.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Well I don't know of any social media platform that's somehow free of that.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Right, but we had the opportunity to be better here.

While Lemmy and the Threadiverse existed before the Reddit API exodus, it really took off around then with dedicated, passionate people working together to build something new, something better. I was one of them and was in real-time communication with admins of many of the popular instances today. There was passion, drive, and determination to make something great. And for a while, we did.

Somewhere along the line, though, the old toxicity started creeping back in, it was left largely unaddressed, and eventually metastasizing to where we are today.

So while there can be debate as to whether that means Lemmy ultimately succeeded or failed, in my view, still holding on to the original desire to make something better than what we crawled out of, I see it as a failure.