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[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 weeks ago (10 children)

It’s not like the Jews had a choice. They fled from persecution and Israel was the only place most of them could go to survive. It’s a state founded by refugees fleeing oppression, persecution, and genocide. That makes it fundamentally different from other settler countries like Australia, the USA, Canada, all Latin American countries, and many more.

Most Israeli Jews didn’t even come there themselves, they were born in the land and have no other home.

Yes, Palestinians also have a right to self determination. Two state solution is the best option for that. Sadly they refused several of the good offers they got, especially around the turn of the millennium.

Of course there are racist and hateful Israelis as well. The overall society has understandably hardened their stance towards Palestinians since October 7th.

inherently racist since it specifically calls for a race of Jews

You could say that about any ethnic nationalist movement.

chanting "death to Arabs"

Similar chants are common in the other direction as well.

A hundred years of conflict have taken their toll.

[–] DrWorm@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Sadly they refused several of the good offers they got, especially around the turn of the millennium.

This is false, you can watch a very well sourced video here the sources are pinned at at the top of the videos comment section if you want reading material.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Listen to this Saudi diplomat who was a witness to many negotiations and the behavior of Palestinian leadership over the decades. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XTSrlONiDU&t=650s

Your linked video is so blatantly dishonest. Just one example: at 4:22 it complains that Palestine would have gotten lots of infertile land, completely disregarding the Negev.

The sources listed are a long list of books without any pages indicated. Lots of them with a strong pro palestine bias that distort history.

[–] dastanktal@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago

https://x.com/JalalAK_jojo/status/1946806553115263349

Most tolerant people ever. Israelis definitely aren't blood thristy or anything

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