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"Supporting a two-state solution" is not the same as recognizing Palestine.
Recognizing Palestine is a symbolic gesture at the moment since there's no Palestinian government that controls both the West Bank and Gaza. Generally when countries do this, the recognize the PA as the government of Palestine, but that implies that Gaza isn't part of Palestine (which nobody really thinks) and the West Bank is under occupation, so what does that even mean? I
Recognition of Palestine is just a way to protest Israel and/or the US, nothing more. It's a symbolic act, not a meaningful change in anything on the ground.
What Carney said is more sensible. Everyone reasonable wants a two-state solution, strangely it's only Netanyahu and radical pro-Palestinian groups that want a one state solution. They only differ on which ethnic group should control that one state.
Even then it's premature to talk about a long term peace before there's a ceasefire, but this is mostly about putting pressure on Israel to bring in more humanitarian aid because the US isn't doing that anymore.
Not sure what this conference will accomplish though... is any country going to commit ground troops to Gaza? We all want more humanitarian aid (and eventually a stable peaceful government) in Gaza, but how do you actually make that happen?
I agree with a lot of what you've said here but a one-state solution is not necessarily a question of "which ethnic group controls the state". The anti-apartheid, anti-genocide advocates for a one-state solution generally argue for full rights for all citizens and a secular administration, if I'm not mistaken.
Jews would still be a majority in a one state solution. What's the term for changing an area from occupied territory to be part of a country where the people are citizens? Annexation.
That's why the whole "apartheid state" thing is a silly slogan used by people who don't actually understand anything. Netanyahu wants to annex the West Bank and it seems the "apartheid state" crowd agrees that this is the best solution. But I don't think they really do agree with Netanyahu, it's just non-serious people spewing non-sense slogans. They don't understand what the word annexation means and don't care that Palestinians might want their own state apart from Israel.
Look, I'm just explaining the position as I understand it. I'll also note that there are a great many advocates for a one-state, equal-rights solution that most certainly do know what they're talking about.
Who? If you could even just point to someone describing how this would work, that would be helpful. But I've never seen anyone actually explain how this would actually work. The only one state solutions offered is Netanyahu wanting to annex territories or nutjobs that want to ethnically cleanse (or worse) Jews from the region.
Just look at the population numbers... A one state solution would have Jewish majority. Do pro-Palestinian radicals really want a one state solution with Palestinians being a minority in a state that's majority is Jewish? There's a lot of dark intentions of those that want a one state solution. Or they just don't know what they're talking about.
Ilan Pappé is one of the foremost advocates AFAIK