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Lol what, someone making 100k in some mid-level technical job or lower management is not "the bourgeoisie". Nurses, insurance underwriters, project managers make that much. In the places where most Americans actually live and work that's barely enough to rent your own apartment without roommates. It's about 1.5 times the average wage, you can't buy up a neighborhood with that lmao, what kind of fantasy world are you living in?
I see your .de instance and yeah, someone making 100k€ in Germany outside of Munich is pretty well off, maybe they can get a second house when they're 55 or whatever. Still not the bourgeoisie.
I'm on a dutch server because that's what r/machinists and a bunch of related subs migrated to. Not hard to find comments where I spell out my actual (US)location, nevermind that I always use dollar-signs explicitly.
Someone making over $100,000 strictly due to all the overtime they work, like a nurse or OTR trucker, is an entirely different matter, but at the same time, still the same people whose families are actually well-off but refuse to admit it due to the bread-winners' martyr complex, drug/alcohol/smoking habits and resulting legal issues, and yeah, sure, they are working themselves to death as if they have no choice in the matter. If you aren't making $100,000yr on 50 hours or less per week, going home almost every night, sit down, we aren't talking about you. As if that person is even reading this.
Insurance underwriters and Project managers? Some of the most deluded penny-pinchers I've ever met. You're talking people who should have a couple mil by middle-age, yet still will have nightmares about being poor in that case. HOW ARE YOU NOT FREAKING OUT ABOUT SAVING $5 A MONTH ON CAR INSURANCE!!!
Ok sorry but like I'm not gonna read your comment history for that, I believe you if you say you're in America. Plenty of people have lived in both.
Anyway. I just pulled those job titles randomly from the BLS statistics, you can find an arbitrary number of them which are that or near that. https://data.bls.gov/oes/#/industry/000000
One hundred thousand American dollars is not some magic number. It's a high wage but still a fairly ordinary one now. It's a decent wage for quality of life but it doesn't put you in charge of or representing anything.
That's great, but its still not OOP's-victim -levels of peon, either. The distance between the two is as great as that between "only desperate people would ever take an un-paid internship" and the truth; The reality is that only the extremely well-off can afford to take on such an internship.