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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

but i don’t understand the dbzer0 aspect of this at all. i still don’t see dbzer0 not moderating Xinjiang as they do Gaza.

There's outright denialism, including Holodomor denialism, that is left up and unremoved.

Dbzer0 is quite insistent on removing other forms of genocide denialism in that comm.

They are not removing Holodomor and Uyghur genocide denialism.

It's a very apparent double-standard, and considering what the admins upvote and at least one argues in favor of, raises some serious fucking questions.

(save debbs and very occasionally unruffled, who also from what i see is taking the stance of “yes there is genocide, but certain states are hypocritically hammering it as the worst thing ever while dismissing other genocides for selfish political gain instead of concern”, which would explain his upvotes).

"China is being shitty and authoritarian towards the Uyghurs, but it's nothing like the genocide Israel is waging", saying that Chinese influence in Myanmar is a more serious violation by the PRC than the Uyghur genocide is, and leveling a judgement of "PTB" - "Power Tripping Bastard" - towards the moderator of [MeanwhileOnGrad] for banning someone who was literally denying the Uyghur genocide.

Combined, that's pretty distinctly defending Uyghur genocide denial, and I would say right up on the border of denying Uyghur genocide themselves.

If I said, "Israel is being shitty and authoritarian towards the Palestinians, but it's nothing like the genocide the Nazis waged", would you regard that as:

A. Borderline genocide denial of the ongoing genocide of the Palestinian people by reducing the ongoing genocide to something that is simply 'shitty and authoritarian' while noting that 'real' genocide is more than that

OR

B. Just making casual comparisons

though i would find it reasonable if goat and comments related to the votes nagging (and maybe what i mentioned about Amnesty above) were being downvoting by the dbzer0 people

I'm not taking into account downvotes, which can be for any number of reasons - only when the admins upvote genocide denialism.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The problem with that Israel statement isn’t the “not genocide” part; it’s the use of the word “shitty”. If I was a mod (or even something else with interest of engaging) approaching that, I’d reply something like “‘shitty’ is not a good word to describe the crimes against humanity happening in Gaza, though, with great disregard and bombings against human life and incredibly flimsy justification for attacking and even double-tapping civilian targets and centers” and see how they respond. I see no problem with

The thing I’m having difficulty seeing is mods applying a different standard to Palestinian genocide wording discussions than Uyghur in moderation actions like removal and banning, like “Dbzer0 is quite insistent on removing other forms of genocide denialism in that comm.”

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

The thing I’m having difficulty seeing is mods applying a different standard to Palestinian genocide wording discussions than Uyghur in moderation actions like removal and banning, like “Dbzer0 is quite insistent on removing other forms of genocide denialism in that comm.”