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In addition to AI "Page Buddy," Firefox also Adding Google Lens, Stock Data, Tasks, Timer
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YOU'LL NEVER GET ME TO USE AI
translation: ask user again in 3 days
Seems like a silly statement. I mean we do not have real AI, so you basically are saying "I will not use predictive algorithms" which seems counter intuitive to using a computer at all.
Its abundantly obvious that nowadays when somebody mentions AI they mean generative AI for text, images, and so on.
OK, that changes nothing about what I said. Do you have a point?
I quite obviously meant it doesn't matter how much they integrate Gemini into the browser, I'm not touching it.
I, again quite obviously, am not saying I'm not going to use any predictive algorithm ever made.
If this is confusing to you, consider consulting a doctor.
You said or op or whoever, I will not use AI. Now you are saying in a browser and if it is gemini.
Point is I think the problem is corporations, the training, the privacy, etc.
Predictive algorithms could be useful eveb in a browser, generative ai could be helpful with spotting phishing, confusing ads, spelling, orgnization and layout, but it's all about who made it, who controls it, and how much energy it consumes.
That is my point, the issues surrounding computing are not just because it is called "ai" and I think it should be said as such.
@NewNewAugustEast @kadup
@Vivaldi
I am definitely going to be called a chill, but I truly and honestly love the thing I'm going to talk about, I'm not just "blowing steam"
If you want a great, User-Configurable browser without any AI garbage, give Vivaldi a try
Here is the CEO giving a clear stance against generative AI
https://vivaldi.com/blog/keep-exploring/
And here is a more general explanation of what and how they as a company is working towards a better future for the web
https://vivaldi.com/for-a-better-web/
My own experience with the browser is that it feels like what people expect Firefox to still be:
A User-focused, configurable and customizable, feature-rich web-browser that puts the user first and foremost.
Want the tabs at the bottom?
That's a setting.
Using Vivaldi on Linux in a Window-manager with server-side(or no) decorations?
Don't worry, that's in the Settings.
Want a keybinding that opens a predetermined set of tabs?
That's possible with a command chain.
Want to set alt+tab to cycle tabs?
The keybinding page in the Settings is one of the best I've ever used with the ability to bind multiple keybindings to the same action (or multiple actions using command chains)
And as if that wasn't enough, the CEO spends some of his time on Mastodon, and has answered questions directed to the Vivaldi account
OK, I'm a fanboy.
Vivaldi is probably the only Chromium based browser I would consider. It is my alternative when I am not using Firefox. Yeah it is pretty good.
I will say, like I mentioned about Firefox, if you scroll down in the comments you will find people saying Vivaldi will fade to obscurity without implementing some kind of AI.
Frankly I appreciate Vivaldi's stance: it isn't ready yet, too many issues and problems to add agents into our ecosystem.
By the way Vivaldi is like a swiss knife: you can take notes, email, calendar, tasks, so much stuff! On the other hand it often chokes on updates and the sync is less then perfect.
@NewNewAugustEast
The reason I didn't mention the (synced, hierarchical, markdown) notes, mail, RSS feed, calendar, pomodoro timer, read later feature, in-browser tilling window manager, etc (probably forgot something)
And if you count things connected to the vivaldi.net account:
Email address, Blogg platform, forum, (sync), and social media platform (Mastodon instance),
Whatever https://onlyfjords.com/ is
Again, I might have missed something
Is:
0. I didn't know that you had used it before, didn't want to "scare" you with "too many features"
⚠️Rambling tangent ahead ️⚠️
Come to think of it, if I were only able to have 2 graphical programs installed on my computer, it would be Emacs and Vivaldi
Ofcourse I'm not counting the x11 server and a minimal Window-manager, but those aren't really graphical programs are they
And even though the features overlap between the 2(Vivaldi notes, Emacs org-mode, and so on), I still dare put Vivaldi on that high of a pedestal, it's just that good
Its nice... but it still is chrome. And that makes it not going to be my main browser.
Ever tried Floorp?