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[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Small kids doesn't stop you from biking lmfao. It just changes what setup of bike you need to have.

the weather doesn't allow it, or...

The only weather that would prevent it is a hurricane and you shouldn't be driving in one of those either.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Spoken like someone who hasn't had to deal with kids. Or worked a job with a dress code.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, it's spoken like someone who's been to the numerous countries where they bike with their kids just fine.

worked a job with a dress code

A 5-7 mile commute is doable without being sweaty with the right bike.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure, because rain and snow don't exist.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Raincoats exist man. Rain bubbles exist. It's a solved problem. Snow just isn't that hard

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Cars exist too, and a whole lot more effective than a raincoat or a bubble. It's a solved problem.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Cars are a problem. They pollute(yes, even electric ones), are costly to run, greatly increase the danger of neighborhoods, cause a reduction in smaller businesses. They make it more expensive for people who don't have money to get around, make it harder for children to get safely from place to place. They generate sizeable areas of development damage to growing people along major highways and roads(again, even electric causes this).

It's not a solved problem, cars are a problem.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Everything pollutes, yes, even bikes.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The degree is considerably different. And that still ignores the non pollution issues.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The usefulness is also considerably different.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Exactly my point: caring about a minor convenience.over seriously bettering the world.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It more like a major inconvenience vs infinitesimally bettering the world.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's a small inconvenience for a major bettering of the world. You really underestimate how bad cars are for society and the planet. Cars account for 28% of usa emissions according to the epa(on a yet ungriefed section). Add in the rubber tires breaking down everywhere which gets worse as car weight increases, and you can see how it creates issues to wildlife, children, and the climate. Don't underestimate the emissions created in producing your electric car's batteries and tires either--- they're better than an ice but still an issue.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No wonder, americans still use 6 liters engines on 4 ton trucks to get groceries.

A small electric compact car with a small battery (soon to be sodium) solves all of the problems while performing the same functions.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No, it does not. Still has considerably more environmental impact that can be reasonably justified. Still creates more death. Wheel rubber will still be a major, and ignored, issue. Still encourages poor land use and lower activity. And frankly, ring me up when small electric cars exist--none of the current electric car models are small. Except the rarely used electric smart car.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It doesn't exist, except for the one it does. Excellent reasoning.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Sure. Point is they're not a serious consideration, they're not bought, have no range, and are useless. Larger models like yours have almost all the same issues cars do. You just want to feel better about the choices you make, instead of just understanding the actual issues cars pose

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

They have much more range than a bike, so bikes are even more useless?

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Huh? They have 60 mile ranges, that's less than a bike.

But no, for long distance biking you take it in conjunction with trains. Can't take a smart car on a train

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, who doesn't run a marathon everyday to work??

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's impressive how little you understand about how much energy biking takes

Anyone allowing themselves a 60 mile commute to work is crazy for multiple reasons. But again, trains

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I commuted 14km (one way) by bike for years, I know very well how much energy it takes, but keep guessing.

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If you think 14km is even close to comparable to a marathon, I'm going to continue questioning. that's a simple bike ride. Again, you have no idea how much energy it takes to bike.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago

I commuted 14km (one way) by bike for years, I know very well how much energy it takes, but keep guessing.

[–] bss03@infosec.pub 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's weather I would prefer a house over a tent. Similarly there's weather I would drive in that I wouldn't bike in (even with a raincoat).

[–] ILoveUnions@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

If you can't stand the slightest inconvenience to yourself for a better world, the world will never improve.