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[โ€“] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Not until a European company produces reusable rockets. This has generally been opposed at Arianespace because it reduces the amount of work available in the host countries

[โ€“] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This has generally been opposed at Arianespace because it reduces the amount of work available in the host countries

That is literally the most foolish statement I have ever read. This attitude will literally make them go bankrupt. The only reason Arianespace still exists is because it's massively subsidized by the EU, it's basically a jobs program. What they're doing is nowhere near competitive with reusable rockets

[โ€“] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

True, and everyone knows Arianespace needs a reusable rocket now, but they never could start development until existentially threatened, so they start from scratch now

[โ€“] Sigmatics@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

*did. They definitely could have

[โ€“] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

Physically yes, politically no.

[โ€“] bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

And that's how you lose the space race

[โ€“] luckystarr@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not a race. It's a jobs program which provides thought essential services to the governments. Just that nowadays, what is considered essential has been expanded.

[โ€“] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Arianespace had lots of international customers, not just domestic government. Presumably that's all gone to SpaceX now, but that's a new development. Arianespace used to be competitive.

[โ€“] luckystarr@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago

What I wanted to say is, even if they were to never again be competitive, they won't get dropped by the governments. They are a strategic resource of the European Union.