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Why would he ignore it?
He already banned weapons exports to Israel, condemned Israel for war crimes, ramped up aid to Palestine, sanctioned a bunch of Israeli MPs, committed to arresting Netanyahu if he ever comes to the UK, refused to join the US/Israel coalition in Iran, and recognised Palestine.
Why would he suddenly become pro-Israel?
All meaningless things for show, israel could start gassing gazans and he would do nothing more than performative acts like he has already done.
Why is banning weapons exports and recognising Palestinian statehood meaningless? That sounds important to me.
What is an example of something that would be meaningful? If banning exports is not meaningful it sounds like nothing will satisfy you short of invading Israel.
I remember when banning weapons exports to Israel was being described as the most important thing the UK could do. Now we've done it and it's been relegated to 'meaningless'. And if recognising Palestine statehood is meaningless, why have Palestinians been campaigning for just that for decades? Clearly they don't see it as meaningless!
The UK has not recognized Palestinian statehood except on paper. It blackmails the PA into caving to Israeli demands in exchange for recognizing no clear territories.
Also the UK still supplies weapons to Israel. Which is mentioned in the article.
This explains how fraudulent it all is https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/recognition-palestine-repeat-wests-oslo-peace-fraud
Christ.
I lost all the positive things that's been done and you — completely baselessly — say "oh well it doesn't count because it must be for show".
You aren't thinking rationally.
I remember having a conversation with someone here, back before the GE, where I said that it wouldn't really matter how much Starmer shifted to a pro-Palestinian position, people would never think it was enough and in fact wouldn't even acknowledge that it had happened. Other person was swearing blind that I was wrong. And, I mean, not to gloat or anything, but...
He has done nothing of substance. Your misundetstanding here is based on thinking that anything he did was for more than show.
"nothing of substance" says the commenter
says reality.
It really is worrying. Both on the far right and the far left, vibes matter, not truth. I used to dismiss it, but the horseshoe theory is real.
A lot of your list is factually incorrect. This, along with other recent factually challenged comments made by this account makes it necessary for you to source every single claim on that list to make it more credible than my next sentence.
I call bullshit on all of it.