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[–] kingofras@lemmy.world -1 points 4 weeks ago (13 children)
[–] Ferrous@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 weeks ago (11 children)

Honest, genuine question: would there be any point in this descent into fascism where you'd give up on this tactic?

I suppose I can still understand it at this stage: most conflict is still abroad, only 9 months in to the presidency, and the Epstein revelations are still fresh, but how long will you push this?

Will you still be shouting about Epstein once the first protestor is killed by ICE? What about after the first civilian doors are busted down? What about after trans people are definitively criminalized? What about after the first train is loaded up? What about after the first mass grave is discovered? What about after a few tens of thousands of Americans have been exterminated?

I'm not saying everything above is going to happen, but supposing they did, would you still be shouting Epstein? Because at this point, it appears as if you, along with the rest of the Epstein crowd, will be shouting about it regardless of however far we are into the fascist descent. I dont understand that.

[–] MBech 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I've asked similar things before. Not everything they do is to take focus away from Epstein. At this point I'm even convinced they don't give a shit. They know they could rape a kid on live tv, and absolutely fucking nothing would happen, because too many americans have been brainwashed. Half would say it's fake, and the other half would condemn "political violence" and call for the democrats to do something about it.

As a european, I've never been fond of USA, but I have absolutely lost every last bit of faith in anyone getting off their ass, and actually doing anything, no matter what the fascists do.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yet when someone like me does, you’re there with the other armchair critics and keyboard warriors to tell us who do stuff to strongly consider not doing shit.

There’s hypocrisy and then there’s these lot.

[–] MBech 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I am 100% behind any movement doing anything useful, like getting rid of fascists through the only historically proven method of disposal. Through violence.

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Good, and I’ll be there with you. But until then, let’s keep taunting the toddler so he keeps overplaying his hand.

I just hope you realise that this “left holding each other to account, and keeping each other honest” is really a waste of energy.

Either shut up and prep for war, or prep for war and tell us how to do it. Accept that all approaches have some merit, some more than others, but that spending time criticising (and for me to respond to it) is really stupid and pointless.

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