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Pointing out, debunking, and spreading awareness about state- and company-sponsored astroturfing on Lemmy and elsewhere. This includes social media manipulation, propaganda, and disinformation campaigns, among others.

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Headline after headline fails to mention that seizing the ships and kidnapping humanitarians violates international law. Instead the articles repeat Israeli propaganda.

This is how Western media normalizes Israel's crimes.

embedded screenshot 1 (BBC News headline):

Israeli naval ships intercept Gaza-bound flotilla

embedded screenshot 2 (Reuters headline):

Live: Israel says it has stopped several vessels from Gaza aid flotilla

embedded screenshot 3 (AP headline):

Activists say Israeli navy has begun intercepting a Gaza-bound aid flotilla

embedded screenshot 4 (CNN headline):

Israeli military intercept and board several aid ships bound for Gaza, organizers say

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[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Not when the UN require Israel to end occupation unconditionally and that Israel showed the intent and is doing a genocide.

I have a brain to use and there is international law resources I do not trust alternative media or mainstream media blindly. You can't seriously justify settler colonialism and the methods to maintain it which blockade is part of it

I wonder how many UN entities and human right report before you accept the obvious

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The UN is a forum for diplomacy to happen in nothing more. It is not the world's government and when it moves in that direction it's always a shit show. The US Electoral College is complete bullshit, but the UN is far far worse than that. One country one vote is never going to lead to an organization that represents the world because most of the world's government's are authoritarian.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/hr-bodies/hrc/current-members

The UN Human Rights Commission has countries on them that are the worst human rights abusers in the world. This is good from a diplomatic perspective as it could encourage those countries to do better. But it's also bad because those human rights abusers will put out reports to claim their enemies are doing bad things to give themselves cover. Qatar has slavery, and was a supporter of Hamas (and maybe still is unofficial), and they're a member of the UN Human Rights commission. The UN commissions have a nasty habit of not recusing themselves when there's a conflict of interest, so Qatar would have some influence here.

Ethiopia is also of the member. The conflict in Ethiopia is ten times worse than anything you see happening in Gaza. But it's like the line from Lord of War... "there was a white war happening so nobody gave a shit about what was happening in Africa." Ethiopia has an interest in keeping everyone's eyes on Gaza.

Same goes for the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

The UN is just kinda a fucked up group dominated by authoritarian human rights abusers, they should be treated with some skepticism on anything they say about the subject.

Your link the to Red Cross has this right at the top:

N.B. As per the disclaimer, neither the ICRC nor the authors can be identified with the opinions expressed in the Cases and Documents. Some cases even come to solutions that clearly violate IHL. They are nevertheless worthy of discussion, if only to raise a challenge to display more humanity in armed conflicts. Similarly, in some of the texts used in the case studies, the facts may not always be proven; nevertheless, they have been selected because they highlight interesting IHL issues and are thus published for didactic purposes.

So they admit they don't know what they're talking about and and having "discussion". Basically just shit talking in the general direction of Israel.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You are discrediting reputable human right organizations that show human right abuses of all countries and all international laws. Everybody is wrong and lying except Israel and it supporter. Everybody is laughing at you for the embarrassing and stupid arguments.

If you really believe the UN is not credible maybe you should ask the genocidal state you support to leave it

Not a single country you claim do more abuses than Israel has as much genocide statements and defend settler colonialism . The only person who was more as explicit was Hitler

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Like I say the UN is useful as a forum for diplomacy. If countries are making bullshit resolutions they're less likely to go to war. That doesn't make the resolutions less bullshit.

About half the reason for the UN is to get countries to put their energy into bullshit rather than war. The other half is the security council, which is also a little bullshit, but it's at least somewhat connected to how things really work in the world.

Not a single country you claim do more abuses than Israel has as much genocide statements and defend settler colonialism . The only person who was more as explicit was Hitler

You should read up on what's been going on in Ethiopia (member of the UN human rights commission). Or maybe you don't think atrocities committed against black people matter? There were more deaths and more famine from that war than the Israel-Hamas war. And it looks like it could be heating up again. Are you going to protest a war in Africa? Nope, because the people there don't have the social media presence that Iran has cultivated.

Somalia is at least 8 times worse than what's happening in Gaza. Do you care?

Same goes for Syria. But Assad is gone now (because for some reason Hezbollah wasn't able to back him up, wonder why?) so hopefully things can stabilize there.

So you don't care if half a million Africans die. You don't even care if half a million Arabs die in Syria. You only care about Arabs in one particular region of the world. Why is that?

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

Keep embarassing yourself with your genocide and settler colonialism apologism. Everybody expect you are lying according to you. Nobody has more extreme genocidal statements as israel leaders, the closest to it is nazi statements

I don't you other conflicts as a deflection like you do, you do not care about a single conflict

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm asking why you care about this particular conflict more than other conflicts where there have been many more deaths.

Sounds to me like you're a Ethiopian genocide apologist.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I am asking you why you defend a settler colonialist state and use other conflicts to deflect