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[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago (4 children)

In a city where streets are not able to be widened, taking two lanes away to dedicate them to buses forces the car traffic from those lanes to the remaining lanes. Those lanes become horribly congested, and it doesn't encourage enough people to use buses to offset it.

I'm not a total downer like them, I see some upsides, but this is incredibly costly for the small number of people it serves and huge number of people it aggregates. NY already has subways, the best kind of public transportation, spend your money improving that.

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 hours ago

If adding more lanes doesn't fix traffic, removing lanes shouldn't break traffic either.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

“Small number of people it serves?” You’re just out here trolling because you think being frustrating is funny, aren’t you?

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Bus and train always work hand in hand, train for mass transit from one place to another, and bus helps with the last mile and those outside of the train coverage. You cannot solely rely on train, because expanding it cost a fuck tons, especially underground in a city as pack as NYC.

[–] 3abas@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

The solution is not a dedicated bus lane in an already heavily congested road... Just because buses are good doesn't mean any solution involving buses is good. Roads are very expensive to build and maintain, and maintaining a dedicated a rarely used road alongside a heavily congested road you just made more congested isn't as simple as "bus go fast = good".

And this is a challenge wherever dedicated bus lanes have been implemented: the buses cannot travel exclusively on the bus lanes, by increasing congestion on the regular lanes, you congest all the feeder lanes. Buses get stuck in nightmare traffic trying to get into and out of the bus lane.

Improving the subway network actually reduces car traffic, fewer people will use taxis and ubers, which directly leads to fewer cars on the road, and that allows buses to operate more smoothly on shared lanes.