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Another L for bigotry (lemmy.dbzer0.com)

submitted 3 weeks ago by Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/whitepeopletwitter@sh.itjust.works

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[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I thought that by always referring to books in the plural, calling it the desert trilogy, and mentioning the Dark Ages, it was obvious that I'm not singling out the burning of the Qur'an as good... in my country, it's not Muslims who have infected politics and try to push religious law, but a sect of fundamentalist Christians... yet, the laws they want pale in comparison to sharia, so I feel sorry for countries with people on the streets calling for sharia.

[–] zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

only things that I know of "sharia" from Qur'an are:

one hundred lashes for adultery,
eighty lashes for accusing chaste women of adultery and failing to produce four witnesses,
Qisas,
cutting the hand of the thieves (when very specific conditions are met),
total prohibition of interest in debt,
hiraba

I wish you criticize them only if the laws of your country solved these problems efficiently (unless you don't consider them problems),
And it is kinda strange that you're hurt when you didn't have contact with Islam?

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

the laws they want pale in comparison to sharia,

Just not true.

Read Handmaid's Tale. That's what Christian nationalists want.

Christianity is just as bad as the rest. Stop carving out an exception.

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I love Handmaid's Tale, I suggest you reading Persepolis as well, this is one is a true history though.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've read Persepolis. I'm struggling to understand what point you're trying to make.

If it's that Handmaid's Tale is unrealistic, then you're just wrong. Margaret Atwood specifically made sure only to include things that people have already done (almost always in the name of religion). Here's a quote from her about it:

The thing to remember is that there is nothing new about the society depicted in The Handmaid's Tale except the time and place. All of the things I have written about have been done before, more than once.

https://deadline.com/2018/07/handmaids-tale-margaret-atwood-masterclass-writing-class-bad-things-really-happened-1202424424/

“When I wrote The Handmaid’s Tale,” Atwood says in the promo, “nothing went into it that had not happened in real life somewhere at some time. The reason I made that rule is that I didn’t want anybody saying, ‘You certainly have an evil imagination, you made up all these bad things.’

“I didn’t make them up.”

https://www.penguin.co.uk/discover/articles/margaret-atwood-handmaids-tale-testaments-real-life-inspiration

[–] PiraHxCx@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

My point is that what we fear bible‑thumpers can do, qur’an‑thumpers are already doing in several parts of the world, so they must be treated as an equal threat.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

so they must be treated as an equal threat.

Oh. Then I guess we agree lol.

I was just reading your arguments as "Christianity is better because they don't do bad things"