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I am sure this article has been shared before, however I wanted to have a look at this topic.
The articles short summary is this:

All 25 car brands we researched earned our *Privacy Not Included warning label – making cars the worst category of products that we have ever reviewed

I am currently driving a 2014 Ford Fiesta which just has a radio with a CD player and Bluetooth. I do not need more than that in a car.

The reason I am looking at all is that that the Fiesta does not belong to me and the friend owning it will be moving out in a bit, so I kinda need another one.

There seems to be one brand that is not as bad as the other ones (but still bad): Renault; mozilla's review...
Maybe I will have a look at their cars.

What do you guys think? Stick to older used cars and not use an EV or look at which of the manufacturers have the least bad privacy policy?

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[–] hawgietonight@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

This is something I'm looking for also.. but extended to the max. It seems all EVs have to be feature packed. I don't want that. Give me an option to have manual windows, no central locking nor remote, and if the tire size is right, I won't even need power steering. A/C AND USB-A would be the only creature conforts wanted... Probably an EV converted beetle?

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You need power steering. That's not even a luxury, that's a safety feature. Being able to steer the car quickly and without excessive force is kinda important. You going to be trying to convince us that A.B.S., air bags, and seatbelts are a luxury next? Just get a damn bike or ride the bus.

[–] hawgietonight@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I've driven many cars without ps and when going fast enough that a quick reaction is necessary, it can be handled fast enough. Not a major safety issue more than looking at GPS is a safety issue. I ride over 100km a week on my MTB so thanks for the suggestion.

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Have you ever driven a small car without power steering?

I used to drive a small hatchback without power steering, once you're going walking speeds it is easy enough to steer. It's really only a problem when standing still or driving super slow (not a danger to anyone).

[–] Wolf314159@startrek.website 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Have you? Several of the first few cars I drove did not have power steering and without any doubt or hesitation I can say they were not as safe to drive. And having been personally struck by a vehicle at slow speeds I'm pretty confident that your argument there doesn't hold up to scrutiny. I'm not saying they can't be driven. I'm saying that they are less safe, the same way cars without anti-lock breaks are less safe. Both require extra training and practice to operate safely in an emergency situation, training that is increasing difficult to get because most people drive cars that have had these essential safety features for their entire lives.

[–] meekah@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I just said I have. I have to agree the cars without power steering I drove did feel less safe, but not because of a lack of power steering. Instead I think they felt that way because they were old and had worn out bushings, giving me less control over the steering. This has nothing to do with power steering.

If someone hit you while going slow neither of you were paying attention. This will happen with power steering, too.

ABS is much more important and provides way more benefit than power steering does.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

"manual" for "pressing a button" or for cranking?

[–] hawgietonight@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Cranking! That allows no electrical wires needed to cross into the door. Simpler and less prone to failing.