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I am sure this article has been shared before, however I wanted to have a look at this topic.
The articles short summary is this:

All 25 car brands we researched earned our *Privacy Not Included warning label – making cars the worst category of products that we have ever reviewed

I am currently driving a 2014 Ford Fiesta which just has a radio with a CD player and Bluetooth. I do not need more than that in a car.

The reason I am looking at all is that that the Fiesta does not belong to me and the friend owning it will be moving out in a bit, so I kinda need another one.

There seems to be one brand that is not as bad as the other ones (but still bad): Renault; mozilla's review...
Maybe I will have a look at their cars.

What do you guys think? Stick to older used cars and not use an EV or look at which of the manufacturers have the least bad privacy policy?

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[–] thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't own a car and am not a fan of most modern "features", but, I must say, I'm quite fond of adaptive cruise control. Setting a follow distance and just cruising for long drives is far better than pumping the brakes every 5 minutes for folks mucking up passing lanes or trucks attempting to overtake on lane-limited roadways. I bet if everyone used it, traffic snakes wouldn't be such a nuisance.

I'd rather never own a car, but if I needed one, I'd be hard pressed to sacrifice privacy for that sweet adaptive cruise. Of course, network connectivity isn't required, so perhaps there will eventually be options.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In case you actually ever need a car and want ACC:

Adaptive cruise became available in the 1998 Mercedes-Benz S-Class and in the early to mid 2000s expanded to executive cars of different marques and then later on, towards smaller/cheaper cars.

There absolutely are cars you can get that have adaptive cruise, that don't have any network connectivity beyond the built-in cellphone (because they used to do that) or Bluetooth to connect your phone.

[–] thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thanks man. I figured there was probably a cross-section of a few cars that fit the bill. I would wonder about and need to confirm functionality. When I rent, I often receive Corollas, and I do like Toyota's implementation. The one's I've driven brake gracefully on lane switches and in finding the follow distance. I've yet to hit a situation, even amongst torn up construction areas, where the assists get janky.

Anecdotally, I've heard from others, with older cars, who won't use the ACC because of perceived jank.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It definitely differs between implementations. I hear Distronic Plus on a W212 Mercedes (so 2009-2016 E-Class) was fairly good for its era, with smooth braking, but I'm biased because pre-touchscreen-hell Mercedes cars are something I have a soft spot for (so pretty much anything made before this decade, really - they kept touchscreens out of the equation for longer than Audi at least). On W211s you could get regular Distronic, which didn't come to a complete stop, it was only meant for highway use. Also all these systems were optional back then, so you can't buy cars blindly. Hell, I bought a 2019 C-Class being pretty sure it had ACC and it... did not.

I unfortunately can't give any advice on Japanese cars, I've only owned a Subaru. The ACC in that was a bit janky, though it never hit anyone so it definitely worked. Most of the time. It complained about lack of sight fairly often, since it was a camera based system unlike the radar or lidar systems most seem to use.

[–] Jtotheb@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It’s a band-aid measure that makes cars behave more like buses, trains, or any other form of transit that takes the mental strain off of the individual. Yet it still uses cars, so we all still get those sweet sweet carbon emissions and ridiculously outsized infrastructure degradation. It’s a step in the right direction but we’re still on the wrong path.

[–] thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

I fully agree with that. Well designed public transport, human-powered local transit (bikes!), and more densely packed infrastructure for human populations are the way to go with respect to the global predicament. This is a big part of the reason I refuse to own a car. But, I can appreciate some features added to the old ways, while gritting my teeth.