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How to throw away all your goodwill (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 days ago by geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to c/usa@lemmy.ml

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[–] the_q@lemmy.zip -3 points 3 days ago (7 children)

We all participate in the genocide. Our tax dollars have killed so many innocent people, our buying habits have inflicted untold amounts of suffering yet people demand change from others and hold them to a standard they themselves can't achieve because it's easier to point a finger anywhere else than the self.

I'm not griping that people are demanding anything, I'm saying that no one will ever check every box for being good enough, righteous enough, moral enough etc. There will always be a group of people that will demand perfection and that is an impossibility.

Hell, the screenshot is from a website run by the richest man in the planet and known Nazi and yet these anti evil people still use it. It's all a fucking show. People post these protests on phones made by slaves. They're all in on Palestine now even though the genocide has been going on for how long? Fuck. Granted a good number of them are kids, but my point remains.

[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Oh, we all actively participated in this genocide? Well, I will gladly turn myself into The Hague for trial for my part. Will Harris?

Again, you just double down that you think demanding accountability for war crimes is equivalent to demanding perfection.

You have no moral compass. You should be ashamed of yourself. Do yourself a favor, and keep these thoughts to yourself, because you’re accidentally revealing your sociopathy to everyone.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Ok, kid. You continue with your assumptions and lack of reading comprehension, and I'll continue to pretend I care about your moronic point of view.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So your whole argument boils down to using infantilization against your opponent to avoid scrutiny of your bad faith.

You very cynically, in the service of advocating for the genocide you low key support, equated having principles against genocide as 'seeking perfection.'

No one with either a brain or a heart could possibly take such a premise on face value without assessing you to be a crypto nazi. So every effort you took in this argument past that has been to mug to the audience you're too stupid to understand isn't on your side either.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Pulling out the Sartre Ol' Reliable on a different kind of genocide defender

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 days ago

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