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Fuckin' love ULEZ. I know it's a largely unpopular opinion outside of this comm, but I like how peaceful it is, how quiet it is, and how chill it is. It's nice driving a low emissions vehicle through it on the rare occasions I have access to it.
Fuckin' love the new 20 zones being rolled out too. The only folk I've heard complain about it are those who generally can't plan anything beyond a pissup in a brewery. It's more relaxing to drive at 20, it feels safer going past pedestrians and cyclists, and it feels less hostile to other road users.
By extension, I love the trend towards paving over city centre roads and only letting mass transit vehicles or cyclists along them with pedestrians. It's much more fun to walk down - or from my niche view - run down iconic city centre locations without being irritating to other pedestrians on pavements or at risk of being struck by a vehicle on the side of the road.
I completely agree. I would also add it makes no difference to travel times as you end up at junctions or lights anyway. On the few occasions I have to drive, I've been overtaken by cars pissed off I'm going the limit only to catch up to them for the rest of the 40 minute journey at every light. In fact, because sometimes the left lane is sometimes more empty, I've gone past them towards the end and I love it! Plus less use of fuel, less braking etc.
Just need to improve public transport going around the outer parts of London, it's very good going into central and around the inner zones but if I want to get across, it's a pain
By "20", you're talking imperial units? Mph?
Yes, 20mph zones on a nationwide basis are a fairly new occurrence here. Wales rolled them out a year or two ago, and they're being rolled out in Scotland now.
20 mph is very slow. What kind of zones are we talking about? Surely not stretches of country ways? More like zones inside cities, right? We have a lot of roads in my town/country with a 40 km/h limit. 😁
The national speed limit in the UK is 60mph for all roads - town or county - that aren't subject to a posted speed limit.
Up until recently, most urban environments with pedestrian access generally fell into 30mph zones, with some side streets and housing estates having their own 20mph limits.
Now, a national template for 20mph for urban areas is being introduced - generally where there's a lot of housing; retail; schools etc or in the middle of villages or town centres etc.