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Um, isn’t discord and telegram technically part of the dark net? I always thought the dark net was just direct communication lines and direct links to self-hosted sites/data from individuals.
I think it's the deepweb that is unindexed and privately-accessible communications. Mentally I reserve the darkweb for complete obfuscation of identity, e.g. Tor.
from what I know, there's the term deepnet or deep web, that includes unindexed websites like databases and whatnot for facebook, telegram , etc. . . . And then there is the term darknet, which refers to websites that don't use ordinary protocols, like tor or i2p.
Call it pedantic, but I do think it makes sense to distinguish the two